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ARC TBC Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby geoff3d » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:41 pm

Need anything ie. later census or marriage etc for elizabeth
from earlier posts re john william griffiths THANKS
About Rich, Martha
1881. Gas Yard Union Mill St, Wolverhampton.
Sarah Higgins 65. widow.
John Rich 31. Son.
Martha Griffiths 29. dau. married.
John Griffiths 6. son.
Elizabeth Griffiths 2. dau.
Martha Collings 61. boarder.

Martha Griffiths married William Davies in 1886.)

1891.
William L Davis 39. labourer at brick yard.****
Martha Davis 40.****
John Griffiths 17. stepson. labourer at brick yard.****
Elizabeth Griffiths 12. Stepdaughter
William J Davis 8.**
All born Wolverhampton. St Matthew

Name:
Elizabeth Griffiths
Gender:
Female
Christening Date:
22 Apr 1879
Christening Date (Original):
22 APR 1879
Christening Place:
WEDNESFIELD, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
Father's Name:
Henry Griffiths
Mother's Name:
Martha
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Re: Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby grangers14 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:46 pm

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14th June 1885. St Johns, Wolverhampton.
William J Davies, 27, B, Stoker, Pountney St. (?) William Thomas Davies, Ship Carpenter
Martha Griffiths, 29, W, Dudley Road, Thomas Rich, Iron Worker
Witnesses, William Arnold, Mary Gough
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Re: Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby geoff3d » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:39 pm

henry not on the 1881
Wolverhampton St Matthew.
Marriage date 11 Oct 1874.
Henry GRIFFITHS. 24. Bachelor Puddler. Chapel Street.
died age 37. 1885 in WOLVERHAMPTON
Martha RICH. 21. Spinster. Chapel Street.

Census 1871
Event Place:
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Male Age 21
Occupation:
Labourer In Iron Works
Relationship to Head of Household:
Son
Birth Year (Estimated):
1850
Birthplace:
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Sarah Griffiths Head Female 66 Shirlett, Shropshire
Henry Griffiths Son Male 21 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Charles Griffiths Son Male 17 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
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Re: Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby geoff3d » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:20 pm

Descendants of :
Harry henry Griffiths
Generation 1
1. Harry henry Griffiths was born 11 Nov 1849 in 11 Nov 1849 Walsall Street and died 1885 in Age 37 Wolverhampton. He married Martha Rich 11 Oct 1874. She was born 1853, daughter of Thomas Rich and Sarah Higgins.

Children of Harry henry Griffiths and Martha Rich:
i. 2. John William Griffiths was born 1877 in Walsall Street Wolverhampton
ii. Elizabeth Griffiths was born 22 Apr 1879 (witness at JW wedding as Betsy) ?

Generation 2
2. John William Griffiths was born 1877 in Walsall Street Wolverhampton. He married Susan Thompson 01 Jul 1907. She was born 1879 in castle church stafford and died 08 Oct 1956, daughter of Joseph Thompson and Ann Plant.
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Re: Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby geoff3d » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:47 pm

ANOTHER connection :? :?
Sarah Ann Griffiths Daughter Single Female 4 1877 census 1881
(Sarah an illegitimate child 2 Jun 1776 Wednesfield )
GRIFFITHS, SARAH ANN JONES
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 650

GRIFFITHS, SARAH ANN RICH (mother of john william griffiths born 1877?)
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 622

Who`s daughter was Sarah Ann,(sister to John William Griffiths)?
1881
Moseley V High Street, Wednesfield, Wolverhampton,
Staffordshire, England
Mary Jones Head Widow Female 55 1826 No Occupation Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
William Davis Son In Law Married Male 30 1851 Cooper Oakengates, Shropshire, England
Rachel Jones Daughter Single Female 21 1860 ? Painter (Whitesmith) Staffordshire, England
Catherine Jones Daughter Single Female 18 1863 None Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Rosehannah Jones Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Tacker Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Enoch Jones Son Single Male 12 1869 None Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Ann Griffiths Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Baby

You are quoting 1881 census headed by Mary Jones - however, if you look at the original pages (household covers 2) of the census there is no Sarah Ann Griffiths with the family at all. Seems to have been a mistake made when indexing/transcription was done.
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Have finally found her on original census page - she is the youngest child of an Edward Griffiths and wife Ann - his census ref. is RG11 - piece 2812 - folio 120 - page 2. Family is the last on the page - Household no. 9 at Jones (?) Colliery - and if you then click on the next page there is Sarah Ann Griffiths 4 Baby born Moseley Village Heath Town. The page with her on has 122 page 3 which is clearly an error (hence all this confusion) and should surely read 120 page 3.
Looking at pages around relevant census entries look like the enumerator has used some of the wrong pages (out of sequence) when writing up the census for Wednesfield which has subsequently lead to the error regarding Sarah Ann Griffiths entry
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Re: Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby geoff3d » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:55 pm

can any of these be found on the 1901, can then hopefully move forward
1881. Gas Yard Union Mill St, Wolverhampton.
Sarah Higgins 65. widow.
John Rich 31. Son.
Martha Griffiths 29. dau. married.
John Griffiths 6. son.
Elizabeth Griffiths 2. dau.
Martha Collings 61. boarder.

Wolverhampton St Matthew.
Marriage date 11 Oct 1874.
Henry GRIFFITHS. 24. Bachelor Puddler. Chapel Street.
died age 37. 1885 in WOLVERHAMPTON
Martha RICH. 21. Spinster. Chapel Street.

14th June 1885. St Johns, Wolverhampton.
William J Davies, 27, B, Stoker, Pountney St. (?) William Thomas Davies, Ship Carpenter
Martha Griffiths, 29, W, Dudley Road, Thomas Rich, Iron Worker
Witnesses, William Arnold, Mary Gough

1891.
William L Davis 39. labourer at brick yard.****
Martha Davis 40.****
John Griffiths 17. stepson. labourer at brick yard.****
Elizabeth Griffiths 12. Stepdaughter
William J Davis 8.**
All born Wolverhampton. St Matthew
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Re: Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby geoff3d » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:41 pm

William J
or William L as on 1891 entry
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Re: Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby geoff3d » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:49 pm

Free Cen has William P :? Davies born Wales
1891 Census
Piece: RG12/2234 Place: Wolverhampton -Staffordshire Enumeration District: 25
Civil Parish: Wolverhampton Ecclesiastical Parish: St George
Folio: 129 Page: 5 Schedule: 23
Address: 1 Ct. Park St. 2 House

DAVIES William P. Head M 39 Labourer In Brick Yard(Em'ee) Wales - -
40 DAVIES Martha Wife 40 Brick Maker(Em'ee) Staffordshire - Wolverhampton

17 GRIFFITHS John Stpson - 17 Labourer In Brick Yard(Em'ee) Staffordshire - Wolverhampton 12 GRIFFITHS Elizabeth Stpdau - F 12 Scholar Staffordshire - Wolverhampton
8 DAVIES William J. Son - M Scholar Staffordshire - Wolverhampton
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Re: Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:54 am

What are you exactly after?
if it is a particular census I will move this to the census section.
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Re: Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby geoff3d » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:13 pm

Thanks I have the marriage and 1891 census for william, with different initials L J and P, I need to know if he is on the 1901 census or earlier, his parents death address etc, also martha 1901 and additional info to these posts if any :roll:
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Re: Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:29 am

Ok well I will move this to brickwalls as it is more a general query and may get more answers that you need.
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Re: Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby geoff3d » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:45 pm

1891 - ELIZABETH
Still needing CENSUS death or marriage 1901 or after please,
1891.
William L Davis 39. labourer at brick yard.
Martha Davis 40.****
John Griffiths 17. stepson. labourer at brick yard.
Elizabeth Griffiths 12. Stepdaughter **
William J Davis 8.**
All born Wolverhampton. St Matthew
Geoff
Also Martha Collings ?
1881. Gas Yard Union Mill St, Wolverhampton.
Sarah Higgins 65. widow.
John Rich 31. Son.
Martha Griffiths 29. dau. married.
John Griffiths 6. son.
Elizabeth Griffiths 2. dau.
Martha Collings 61. boarder.**

Wolverhampton St Matthew.
Marriage date 11 Oct 1874.
Henry GRIFFITHS. 24. Bachelor Puddler. Chapel Street.
died age 37. 1885 in WOLVERHAMPTON
Martha RICH. 21. Spinster. Chapel Street.
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Re: Elizabeth Griffiths

Postby BC Wench » Mon Jan 17, 2022 3:31 pm

Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?

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