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Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby rockyfowler » Sat May 12, 2018 1:52 pm

One of my brickwalls
Joseph Thomas Hill
BIRTH 17 APR 1889 • Stour Hill Quarry Bank Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
DEATH Unknown

In Bcc https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=435672

All my info

Birth Cert
17 Apr 1889 • Stour Hill Quarry Bank Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Joseph Thomas a boy Father Samuel HILL a Shovel Maker Mother Eliza Hill Formerly Priest Informant signed Eliza Hill Mother Stour Hill Quarry Bank Kingswinford Registered 28 May 1889

1891
Name Joseph Hill
Gender Male
Age 1
Relationship Son
Birth Year 1890
Father Samuel Hill
Mother Eliza Hill
Birth Place Quarry Bank
Civil parish Kingswinford
Residence Place Quarry Bank, Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Sub registration district Kingswinford
ED, Institution or Vessel 44
Piece 2310
Folio 109
Household Members
Name Age
Samuel Hill
Eliza Hill
Samuel Hill
Solomon Hill
Joseph Hill
Eliza Hill

1901
Name Joseph Hill
Age 11
Estimated Birth Year abt 1890
Relation to Head Son
Gender Male
Father Samuel Hill
Mother Matilda Hill
Birth Place Quarry Bank, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish Quarry Bank
Search Photos Quarry Bank, Staffordshire, England
Ecclesiastical parish Christchurch
Town Quarry Bank
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Stourbridge
Sub-registration district Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel 44
Piece 2762
Folio 95
Page number 33
Household schedule number 176
Household Members
Name Age
Samuel Hill 32
Matilda Hill 26
Samuel Hill 15
Soloman Hill 13
Joseph Hill 11
John Hill 8
George Hill 6
Bertie Hill 3
William Hill 2
Eleria Hill 10/12

Is this him in 1911?

Name Joseph Hill
Age in 1911 22
Estimated Birth Year abt 1889
Relation to Head Boarder
Gender Male
Birth Place Stourbridge, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish Aston Manor
Search Photos Aston Manor, Warwickshire, England
County/Island Warwickshire
Country England
Street Address 108 Vicarage Rd Aston
Marital Status Single
Occupation Motor Body Maker
Registration district Aston
Registration District Number 385
Sub-registration district Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel 44
Piece 18313
Household Members
Name Age
Elizabeth Powell 50
Hilda Bough 20
Harold Hewson 30
Joseph Hill 22

Looking for any info please :wink:
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby Jimmy » Sat May 12, 2018 3:43 pm

There is this one same birthday but 1888.

1939. 106 Close Street, Carlisle, Cumberland.
Joseph Hill. 17 Apr 1888. Railway Waggon Examiner.
Ethel Hill. 23 Sep 1891.
Joseph Hill. 10 Apr 1924. Message Boy Electric supply store.
John Hill. 18 Jun 1929.
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby Jimmy » Sat May 12, 2018 4:06 pm

Joseph Hill. Jan-Feb-Mar 1923.
Registration district: Carlisle.
Inferred County: Cumberland.
Spouse: Ethel Furness.
Volume Number: 10b.
Page Number: 765.

Births Jun 1924.
HILL Joseph. FURNESS. Carlisle. 10b. 1049.

Births Sep 1929.
Hill John. Furness. Carlisle. 10b. 822.
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby rockyfowler » Sat May 12, 2018 4:08 pm

Thanks Jimmy pity he shows up in 1911 :( :thumbup:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
112 Union ST, Carlisle, Cumberland, England

John Hill Head Married Male 50 1861 Cumberland Kingstown Brewers Drayman
Mary Hill Wife Married Female 40 1871 Cumberland Longtown -
Joseph Hill Son Single Male 23 1888 Cumberland Longtown Railway Wagon Repairer
Rowland Hill Son Single Male 21 1890 Scotland Glasgow Railway Wagon Repairer
John James Hill Son Single Male 19 1892 Cumberland Burgh Hotel Waiter
William Hill Son Single Male 17 1894 Cumberland Dalston Shop Assistant
Thomas Hill Son Single Male 15 1896 Cumberland Dalston Assistant Clerk
George Hill Son Single Male 11 1900 Cumberland Carlisle School
Maggie Hill Daughter Single Female 8 1903 Cumberland Carlisle School

I think he may have died in the first war?? a lot of his bros and rels went but can find nothing about him after 1901 :?
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby Jimmy » Sat May 12, 2018 4:24 pm

Back to the search.
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby grangers14 » Sun May 13, 2018 4:31 pm

What about these marriages, have you seen them?

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1910
HILL Joseph T BRADLEY Lily G Wordsley, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 018/008/147

or

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1911
HILL Joseph T QUARRY Annie Wordsley, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 018/008/168
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby grangers14 » Sun May 13, 2018 6:38 pm

Thats strange as Samuel lives Evers Street 19011 but middle name as Frederick??

1911. Evers Street, Quarry Bank
Joseph Frederick Hill, 26, Enamel fusers labourer hollowware, Quarry Bank
Beatrice Alice Hill, 25, married 2 years, 1 child living,
Louisa Hill, daur, 2,
Others born Old Hill

1911. 32, Broad Street, Kingswinford
Joseph Hill, head, 27, M, Slater, Brettle Llane
Lilly Hill, wife, M, married under 1 year, Dudley
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby rockyfowler » Sun May 13, 2018 8:12 pm

Thanks for replies but all have diff fathers Joseph and John for fred William Gamekeeper for Joseph Thomas and ages are out etc :( :thumbup:
Looked for years to try and find him :roll:
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby Jimmy » Mon May 14, 2018 2:09 pm

I have checked Military, Emigration and 1939 census, he seems to have disappeared.
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby rockyfowler » Mon May 14, 2018 4:23 pm

On 1911 Census he had 14 children -10 still alive 4 died
Joseph must have died before 1911?
Eliza Priest 1st wife
Samuel 1886-1954
Solomon 1887-1941
Joseph Thomas 1889 -----DIED??
Eliza Elizabeth 1890-1958
John Henry 1892-1957
Frank 1894-1895 DIED
Matilda Bagley 2nd wife
George 1896-1969
Bert Hubert 1900-1944
Alfred (Ralph nickname) 1902-1972
Matilda 1904-1904 DIED
Harold 1905-1906 DIED
Esther Perks 3rd wife
Albert 1908-1971
Florence 1910-1982
Alice 1913-1984 Born After Census
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby Jimmy » Mon May 14, 2018 6:22 pm

Check this out Rocky,

The children have the mothers maiden name Barnes, but there is no Joseph with a Barnes mother.

1911. Upper Thorns Farm, Thorns Road, Quarry Bank, S Staffs.
Joseph Barnes 48. Single. Farmer & Haulage Contractor.
Elizabeth Barnes 50.
David Hill 45. bro in law. Waggoner on farm. Cradley.
Priscilla Hill 46. sister.
Annie Hill 24. Niece.
Joseph Hill 22. Nephew. Clerk.
Edith Hill 16. Niece.
Clarence Rhonney Hill 11. Nephew.

Others born Quarry Bank.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1886.
HILL David. BARNES Priscilla. Cradley Heath, St Luke. Sandwell Register Office. 20/2/101.
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby Jimmy » Mon May 14, 2018 6:26 pm

He is down as son in 1901.

1901.
David Hill 31.
Priscilla Hill 35.
Annie Hill 14.
Joseph Hill 12.
Edith Hill 6.
Clarence R Hill 1.
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby rockyfowler » Mon May 14, 2018 8:26 pm

Thanks Jimmy looked at this one for years it seems to tie in somewhere with the farm and horses but can`t quiet put it together joseph is in BCC https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=435773 :thumbup:

On the 1911 census he Joseph / Richard would be nephew to head of house Barnes so dead end on that :cry:

He was Richard??? Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HILL, RICHARD BARNES Order
GRO Reference: 1888 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 181 Order

28 Nov 1886
David HILL 20 B Collier Cradley Heath Father Christopher Hill Collier
Priscilla BARNES 21 S Cradley Heath Father Richard Barnes Farmer
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Richard Barnes / Sarah Ann Wood X
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby rockyfowler » Sun May 20, 2018 5:56 am

I think this needs to move to brickwall section? :wink:
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Re: Help required please for Joseph Thomas Hill

Postby grangers14 » Sun May 20, 2018 7:40 am

I will move it over RF.
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