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1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:33 pm
by Frodo
I am trying to find the 1841 Census for Benjamin and his wife Charlotte without success, I would appreciate it if you could help.
I have all the other Censuses between 1851-1881.

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:22 am
by rockyfowler
Hi if you look for Benjamin b 1821 They rounded the ages up and down in 1841 census :idea:
1841
Benjamin Billingham Male 20 1821 Staffordshire, England
Charlotte Billingham Female 20 1821 Staffordshire, England
Mary Billingham Female 0 1841 Staffordshire, England
William Morton Male 25 1816 Staffordshire, England
Fanny Morton Female 20 1821 Staffordshire, England

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:52 pm
by Frodo
Thank you, yes I know the Census rounded up and down in 1841, but Ancestry just didn't find the 1841 Census, including for others who are looking at Benjamin's family.
There were several Mary Anns on Free BMD but as she was alive and less than a year old when the Census was taken I believe she must be the Mary Ann registered at Dudley in June (April, May, June) vol. 18 page 303.
For information I did find her marriage to Frederick Bullock in Worcestershire Marriage and Banns (14th October 1861) and her death in the Civil Registration Index ,(volume 8d p517). She died in Oldham at the home of one of her children, she seems to have moved there after the death of Frederick, registration June 1887 Stourbridge v6c69).

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:10 pm
by Frodo
Thank you again, where you able to look at the Census itself rather than the transcript. I am just wondering whether it says who William and Fanny Morton are, they do not appear anywhere in my Family Tree.

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:36 pm
by Frodo
I have just been working on Ancestry and noticed that in other trees Benjamin has several siblings including a Fanny born 1821, presumably this is Fanny Morton

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:08 pm
by rockyfowler
If you look up Fanny Morton on Ancestry the image shows the Billinghams also, Best RF
Name Fanney Marton [Fanny Morton
] on image
Age 20
Estimated Birth Year abt 1821
Gender Female
Where born Staffordshire, England
Civil parish Rowley Regis
Hundred North Seisdon
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Dudley
Sub-registration district Rowley Regis
Neighbors
Piece 997
Book 5
Folio 26
Page number 3
Household Members (Name) Age
William Marton

25
Fanney Marton 20

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:21 pm
by Jimmy
BILLINGHAM, MARY ANN HALL.
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 303.

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:27 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:BILLINGHAM, MARY ANN HALL.
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 303.


Dudley St Thomas.
Marriage date 13 Oct 1839.
Benjamin BILLINGHAM. of full age. bachelor. Miner. Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis.
David BILLINGHAM. Trace Maker.
Charlotte HALL. of full age. spinster. Cradley Heath. George HALL. Sawyer.

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:36 pm
by Jimmy
Oldswinford St Mary.
Marriage date 25 Dec 1840.
William MORETON. full age. bachelor. Trace maker. Lye. William MORETON. Trace maker.
Fanny BILLINGHAM. minor. spinster. Trace maker. Lye. David BILLINGHAM.. Sawyer.
Witness 1 Benjamin BILLINGHAM.
Witness 2 Charlotte BILLINGHAM.

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:52 pm
by Jimmy
Clent St Leonard.
Marriage date 18 Aug 1811.
David BILLINGHAM. Rowley Regis with Clent. widower.
Esther SHAW. Rowley Regis with Clent. spinster.
Witness. Benjamin SHAW.
Witness. Ann TURNER.

Possible first marriage for David Billingham.

Halesowen St John the Baptist.
Marriage date 29 Oct 1810.
David BILLINGHAM. Otp. Bachelor.
Elizabeth HANDLEY. Otp. Spinster.
Witness George SMITH.
Witness 2 Thomas BILLINGHAM.

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:32 pm
by Jimmy
This is from Ancestry, looks like Billingham on image.

1841. Cradley, Rowley Regis.
Benjamin Ballinger 20.
Charlotte Ballinger 20.
Mary Ballinger 2 Mo.
/
William Marton 25.
Fanney Marton 20.

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:50 pm
by Frodo
The presence of the surname Hall on Mary Ann's Birth reference Dudley Union Volume 18 Page 303 verifies that this is the correct Mary Ann. Benjamin definitely married Charlotte Hall.

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:38 pm
by Frodo
Thank you, that all seems to make sense, I added William Morton and a lot of information appeared which didn't for Fanny. I am not sure whether to use Moreton or Morton or both. It is Morton in the Death Index.

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:06 pm
by Jimmy
You should go with Morton.

Re: 1841 Census for Benjamin Billingham 1818-96 Rowley Regis

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:31 pm
by Frodo
Thanks. I have just been looking at hints Ancestry have added and it looks like (assuming it is the same William)William was sentenced to death in 1816 for housebreaking, they used the surname Moreton.