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Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Robyn » Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:49 am

Hello,
I have a mystery person turn up in my family tree and I'm not sure who his mother is. His name is Rupert Edward Schneider Hills. His birth registered in December quarter of 1895 in Samford, Suffolk. I'm wondering if his mother had him before she married. Looking for help please as to who his mother might be. Thank you.
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Jimmy » Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:15 pm

HILLS, RUPERT EDWARD SCHNEIDER. no mothers maiden name.
GRO Reference: 1895 D Quarter in SAMFORD Volume 04A Page 822.
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Jimmy » Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:23 pm

Looks like Mary Ann Hills is the mother.

1911. 2 Rosaline Villas, Cobbold Road, Felixstowe, Suffolk.
Henry Hills 62. Head. widower. jobbing gardener.
Mary Ann Hills 38. Daughter. Single.
Rupert Edward Snider Hills 15. Grand Son (Grandson).
All born Raydon, Suffolk
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Jimmy » Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:32 pm

1901. Salvation Army Barracks, Raydon, Suffolk.
Henry Hills 52. thatcher.
Maria Hills 58. Wife.
Mary Ann Hills 28. Daughter. Holton St Mary, Suffolk.
Rubert E S Hills 5. Grandson.
Others born Raydon, Suffolk.
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Jimmy » Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:08 pm

HILLS, MARY ANN CLARK.
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in SAMFORD Volume 04A Page 618.

Marriages Dec 1870.
CLARK Maria. Sudbury 4a. 877.
HILLS Henry. Sudbury 4a. 877.
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Robyn » Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:29 pm

Thank you for your help Jimmy. There are a number of Hill children in the 1891 Census that don't seem to be with their parents in 1901. I wonder if sisters Mary Ann and Hannah Maria Hills both aged 18 in 1891 are twins. Could Hannah be the mother of Rupert rather than Mary Ann?
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Jimmy » Thu Aug 17, 2023 2:32 pm

She could be.
You would need the birth certificate to be sure.
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Robyn » Thu Aug 17, 2023 2:48 pm

Thank you for your help Jimmy. Seems as though it will be a certificate to be sure.
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Jimmy » Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:51 pm

I can't see a baptism, the mother could be 1 of 4.

1891. Upper Street, Raydon, Suffolk.
Henery Hills 42. Thatcher.
Maria Hills 46.
Mary Ann Hills 18. Daughter.
Hannah Hills 18. Daughter.
Amilia Hills 14. Daughter.
Eda Hills 10. Daughter.

Henery Hills 13. Son.
Berburn Hills 13. Son.
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Jimmy » Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:57 pm

Someone as a family tree that as Hannah Amelia Hills as his mother.
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Jimmy » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:06 pm

It looks like they are twins.

HILLS, HANNAH CLARK.
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in SAMFORD Volume 04A Page 618.

HILLS, MARY ANN CLARK.
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in SAMFORD Volume 04A Page 618.
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Robyn » Fri Aug 18, 2023 2:06 pm

Hi Jimmy,
Someone sent me a message on Family Search saying the mother was Hannah Hills found on the baptism record on FindmyPast. I don't subscribe to FMP and I can't find a baptism on FS. I gathered Hannah and Mary Ann were twins because I found the birth reg on Freebmd. Thank you as always for helping. Robyn.
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Jimmy » Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:52 pm

Robyn I have sent you a pm.
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby kdwoodie » Fri Aug 18, 2023 4:56 pm

First name(s) Rupert Edward Schneider
Father's occupation Domestic Servant
Last name Hills
Mother's first name(s) Hannah
Baptism year 1896
Residence Raydon
Baptism date 12 Jan 1896
Notes bn 10 Oct 1895
Parish St Mary
Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 4)
Place Raydon
Entry number 251
County Suffolk
Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911
Country England
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Relationship Son
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Father's first name(s) -
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Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name

Postby Jimmy » Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:29 pm

kdwoodie wrote:First name(s) Rupert Edward Schneider
Father's occupation Domestic Servant
Last name Hills
Mother's first name(s) Hannah
Baptism year 1896
Residence Raydon
Baptism date 12 Jan 1896
Notes bn 10 Oct 1895
Parish St Mary
Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 4)
Place Raydon
Entry number 251
County Suffolk
Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911
Country England
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Relationship Son
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Father's first name(s) -
Collections from England, Great Britain


Thanks kdw I have already sent that to Robyn in a pm, wasn't sure if I could post it.
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