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Postby vixtoria » Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:10 pm

hello :grin: ok my name is victoria and im not expert and im struggling so much to find out information on my grandma and great grandma .... im wantiong to findout who my grandmas father was or just information on her mother ... can anybody help me please? :cry: xx
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Postby vixtoria » Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:23 pm

so sorry everyone im abit slow :lol: thank you so much for helping me guys ! ok so my mams name is gillian scott moralee her mam is enid mary moralee and her mam is meggie little (cook) her married name is cook, so meggie is the one im having trouble finding , think she was born 1901 and died at 59 years old 1972 i think ..... her husband was james r cook , she had sisters lilly, edie, and brother robert little...... and rumour in the family her sister thomasina was in a mental hospital and drowned in the lake there .. that would be amazing if anyone could find her ive tried so hard and cant find a thing :( meggies daughters - enid mary little , maureen and margeret cook twins
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Postby vixtoria » Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:25 pm

also hi im victoria chilton im 32 :-) hope ive give enough information, oh and the little family lived bates cottages holywell northumberland but meggie is no where to be seen its so confusing and stressing me out , ive heard she lived in bedlington aswell in newcastle...
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Postby grangers14 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:38 am

Could she have lived in Middlesbrough?

1939. 37 Studley Road, Middlesbrough
Harry Robinson, (Transcription says Robinson but you can’t see that on image) 11/11/1905, general labourer
Meggie Cook, 25/8/1901, unpaid domestic
Closed record


The age and year you think of her death must be wrong if she was born 1901.
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Postby grangers14 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:14 pm

This looks more like it...

1939. 13 Murrays Yard, Bedlingtonshire
Hugh Robertson, 5/%/1909, Coal Hewer
Mary E Robertson, 26/11/1911, Unpaid domestic
Closed Record
Closed Record
Maggie Cook (Little), 30/6/1913, unpaid domestic duties
Closed record

Free BMD Births Sep 1913
Little Meggie Heard Tynemouth 10b 590

Free BMD Marriages Jun 1944
COOK James R Little Nthmbld.S. 10b 585
LITTLE Maggie Cook Nthmbld. S. 10b 585

Free BMD Deaths Dec 1972
Cook Meggie 30Je1913 Tynemouth 1b 1486
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Postby vixtoria » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:15 pm

grangers14 wrote:This looks more like it...

1939. 13 Murrays Yard, Bedlingtonshire
Hugh Robertson, 5/%/1909, Coal Hewer
Mary E Robertson, 26/11/1911, Unpaid domestic
Closed Record
Closed Record
Maggie Cook (Little), 30/6/1913, unpaid domestic duties
Closed record

Free BMD Births Sep 1913
Little Meggie Heard Tynemouth 10b 590

Free BMD Marriages Jun 1944
COOK James R Little Nthmbld.S. 10b 585
LITTLE Maggie Cook Nthmbld. S. 10b 585

Free BMD Deaths Dec 1972
Cook Meggie 30Je1913 Tynemouth 1b 1486





That must be her ! She married james r cook but what I dot understand is who are her parents ?, and why arnt her sisters with her ? Edie lilly and thomasina ? And her brother Robert ? It’ comes to a dead end xx
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Postby BC Wench » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:16 pm

Free BMD Births Sep 1913
Meggie Little - Mother: Heard Tynemouth 10b 590

LITTLE, LILY MAY HEARD
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 328

LITTLE, ROBERT HEARD
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 296

Birth: Mar Qtr 1916 Tynemouth 10b 560
Thomasina Little - Mother: Heard

Birth: Mar Qtr 1921 Tynemouth 10b 587
Edith Little - Mother: Heard

1939: 16 Double Row, Seaton Valley, Northumberland
Robert Little, 5 Nov 1909, Coal Hewer Putter Below, Single
Lily M Little, 20 Feb 1907, Unpaid Domestic Duties, Single (marries (?) Carr)
James H Little, 20 Jul 1919, Colliery Sheaver Below, Single
Edith Little, 13 Dec 1920, Unpaid Domestic Duties, Single (marries (?) Jordon)

1911 Census: Dodds Buildings, Holywell Village, Seaton Delaval Northumberland
Robert Little, Head.Mar, 31, Coal Miner Hewer, Earsdon 1880
Mary Little, Wife, 31, Cramlington 1880
Robert Little, Son, 1, Earsdon 1910
Lily May Little, Dau, 4, Earsdon 1907

Sorry this is short and sweet but I have to shoot off as going out.
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Postby vixtoria » Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:52 pm

Oh wow ! This is amazing ! Thank you so so much for this really means a lot to me x is there anyway finding out meggies mothers first name and meggies fathers name ?? And where did meggie go she’s not living with her brother and sisters ... it’s so connfusing , I know meggie give birth to my grandma Enid Mary little and all grandmas life she never knew who her dad was it was a mystery x
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Postby BC Wench » Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:28 am

I will reply later on this afternoon Victoria on what I have found on your family.
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Postby vixtoria » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:07 pm

Bc wrench your a star ! Thank you I really appreciate it thank you x
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Postby BC Wench » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:39 pm

Meggie Little's birth was registered in the Sept Qtr 1913 with her Mother's maiden name Heard. All Meggie's siblings also have the Mother's maiden name as Heard on their birth registrations.

Meggie's siblings are living together in 1939, plus a James H Little who is also a brother by the look of it.

Birth: Sep Qtr 1919 Tynemouth 10b 574
James H Little - Mother: Heard

1939: 16 Double Row, Seaton Valley, Northumberland
Robert Little, 5 Nov 1909, Coal Hewer Putter Below, Single
Lily M Litte, 20 Feb 1907, Unpaid Domestic Duties, Single (marries (?) Carr)
James H Little, 20 Jul 1919, Colliery Sheaver Below, Single
Edith Little, 13 Dec 1920, Unpaid Domestic Duties, Single (marries (?) Jordon)

Grangers found Meggie living here in 1939

1939. 13 Murrays Yard, Bedlingtonshire
Hugh Robertson, 5/5/1909, Coal Hewer
Mary E Robertson, 26/11/1911, Unpaid domestic
Closed Record
Closed Record
Maggie Cook (Little), 30/6/1913, unpaid domestic duties
Closed record

So, going back, the 1911 census is the next census we are able to see. Meggie won't be on this one as she wasn't born until 1913, but here are some of her siblings who were born before 1911 plus Meggie's parents Robert & Mary Little.

1911 Census: Dodds Buildings, Holywell Village, Seaton Delaval Northumberland
Robert Little, Head.Mar, 31, Coal Miner Hewer, Earsdon 1880
Mary Little, Wife, 31, Cramlington 1880
Robert Little, Son, 1, Earsdon 1910
Lily May Little, Dau, 4, Earsdon 1907

As Meggie's Mother's maiden name was Heard, I looked for a marriage of Robert Little & Mary Heard (above in 1911 being the parents of Robert born 1910 and Lily May born 1907) but I couldn't find one. So I thought perhaps Mary Heard was married to someone else before she married Robert Little.

I think Mary Heard's first marriage was to John Harlow.

Marriage: Dec Qtr 1897 Tynemouth 10b 457 (Can't see an actual marriage certificate online)
Mary Ann Heard & John Harlow

John Harlow died and Mary Ann then married Robert Little.

Possible Death: Jun Qtr 1900 Tynemouth 10b 179
John Harlow - Age: 20yrs

Marriage: Jun Qtr 1905 Tynemouth 10b 541 (Can't see an actual marriage certificate online)
Mary Harlow & Robert Little

When Mary married for the 2nd time, her Maiden name will still be entered on birth certificates to her children with Robert Little. It will read something like

Meggie Little - Father: Robert Little - Mother: Mary Little late Harlow formerly Heard.

Personally, I would get the birth certificate of Meggie Little first from the GRO before you go back any further to make sure you have the correct one.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

You have to register which doesn't cost anything, then when you find the birth for Meggie

LITTLE, MEGGIE - Mother's Maiden Name: HEAZEL
GRO Reference: 1913 S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 590

(Mother's Maiden Name has been transcribed wrongly on the GRO web site, it should be HEARD as on FreeBMD web site)

You can order the birth certificate, but you will have to pay £7.00 for a PDF copy, which you will be able to download when it's available.

I'll leave it there for now for you to digest everything, because going further back, Mary Ann Heard belonged to a very large family!!
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Re: yooohooo

Postby vixtoria » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:48 pm

Wow ! You really
Know how to do all this ! Your a pro! It’s the same with meggies daughter Enid Mary little my grandma she’s nowhere to be found apart from when she married my granda peter moralee ,


I did the other side of my family which I’m proud of because turns out there was a murderer in the family who was the last man to be hung in 1919 in Newcastle ! Was so fascinating to find ,

Thank you so much for this I’m going to order meggies certificate and il get back to you probably for help for that haha xx
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Postby vixtoria » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:50 pm

Sorry your going to hate me haha does it say where Mary heard was from ? Where she was brung up and born ??
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Postby kdwoodie » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:10 pm

HEARD, MARY ANN MMN BAZZER
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 248

1881 Census
Name: James Heard
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary A. Heard
Gender: Male
Where born: Coalrick, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Cramlington
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 41 Junction Row
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5094
Folio: 88
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
James Heard 46
Mary A. Heard 40
William Heard 19
James Heard 18
Hester Heard 13
Joseph Heard 12
Richard Heard 10
George Heard 9
Elizabeth Heard 8
Martha Heard 7
John Heard 6
Thomas Heard 4
Samuel Heard 3
Edward Heard 2
Mary A. Heard 9 mths

Marriages Sep 1862
Buzza Mary Ann Tavistock 5b 670
Heard James Tavistock 5b 670

Could this be Enid Mary Little
Births Mar 1937
Little Enid M MMN Little Nthmbld Central 10b 56
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Postby peterd » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:14 pm

vixtoria wrote:Sorry your going to hate me haha does it say where Mary heard was from ? Where she was brung up and born ??

census says cramlington

1911 Census: Dodds Buildings, Holywell Village, Seaton Delaval Northumberland
Robert Little, Head.Mar, 31, Coal Miner Hewer, Earsdon 1880
Mary Little, Wife, 31, Cramlington 1880
Robert Little, Son, 1, Earsdon 1910
Lily May Little, Dau, 4, Earsdon 1907
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