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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby peterd » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:51 am

EWCASTLE QUARTER SESSIONS
... been passed. To be imprisoned for the of three months in the House of Correction at Stafford, and kept to hard labour. Samuel Stevenson ami George Swettenham, alias Swf.ttmore, charged with stealing coal, the property of Edward Barker. John and Thomas 1 ...

Published: Saturday 08 January 1831

and also

... she was great impostor, the magistrates committed her to the House Correction at Stafford, for the term of one month. Samuel Stevenson, alias George Taylor, and Geo. Swettenham, (apprehended by Thomas Davis and John Tagg,) have been committed to Newcastle ...

Published: Saturday 01 January 1831


George Swettenham is easier to find. Where to he get to in Australia? At least they were kept together in prison and transportation!


have you ever tried finding these as it will lead you to the area he was in when the crime was committed or do you know that already ?
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby gardener » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:51 pm

My DNA links me to an Enoch Stevenson bn Stone, Staffordshire in 1819 and died in Kansas USA 1890


Where does that 1819 come from? I can see it on an Ancestry tree, but it does not match his age in any census or the immigration record.

Have you chased down his marriage record? Did he marry two different Harriets? You should be able to get his father from a marriage certificate, and that would help hugely.

Also, who were the Joseph and Thomas who emigrated with Enoch and Harriet?

I noticed that Enoch was listed as Plymouth Brethren on one census record. That is perhaps why he is hard to locate for a baptism.
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby AnnieD » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:45 am

My American contacts have told me that the other two Stevenson’s were NEPHEWS...but I don’t think they know where they ended up in USA.
I’ve not tried for a marriage certificate for Enoch, only the information provided by his ancestors in USA.
I’ll see what I can do with regard that, I’ve found it difficult to track down certificates in UK without information....more than happy to try and obtain them though
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby AnnieD » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:05 am

The information I had was Enoch Stevenson b 24 May 1819 Stone parish, Staffordshire
D 5 Sept 1890 Thornburg, Smith, Kansas
Married Hariett H Duncan 5 Aug 1853 Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire
Hariett b 28 Dec 1832 Longton, Staffordshire
D 19 Dec 1915
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby AnnieD » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:28 am

Just been back over information from family in USA, and I’m also wondering about this Hariett...the records state she was Hariett Donkin and they married in 1841; they’re on census records with her parents
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby gardener » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:08 pm

Hi again
This is how it looks to me:

Name: Enoch Stevenson
Marriage Date: 16 Mar 1841
Marriage Place: Fulford,Stafford,England
Spouse: Harriet Donkin
FHL Film Number: 426546, 435859
Name:
Harriet Donkin
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
16 Mar 1841
Event Place: Fulford, Staffordshire, England
Parish: St Nicholas
Residence Place: Moor Barn
Age: 19
Birth Year (Estimated): 1822
Father's Name: James Donkin
Spouse's Name: Enoch Stevenson
Spouse's Residence Place: Moor Barn
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Father's Name: Philip Stevenson
Affiliate Image Identifier: D4356/1/6

1841
Stoke upon Trent (with Harriet‘s family?)
James Donkin 45
Sarah Donkin 45
Elizabeth Podmer 25
George Podmer 2
Enock Stevenson 20
Harrett Stevenson 20

1851
Stoke upon Trent, Lovatt Street
Enoch Stevenson 28 Tailor Stone
Harriett Stevenson 28

Death
STEVENSON, HARRIET 29
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 119

Marriages Sep 1853
ALLCOCK Harriett Stoke T. 6B 207
STEVENSON Enoch Stoke T 6b 207

1854
Emigrates to USA
Name: Enock Stevenson
Arrival Date: 5 Jul 1854
Birth Date: abt 1824
Age: 30
With:
Harriet 22
Joseoph 21
Thomas 17

1860
Denton, Texas
Enoch Stephenson 35 Tailor
Harriett Stephenson 27
George H Stephenson 5
Arthur Stephenson 4
Erwin Stephenson 2

1870
Canada
Enoch Steveson 48 Farmer Plymouth Brethran
Hariet Steveson 38
Albert Steveson 15
Arthur Steveson 14
Erwin Steveson 13

1880
Kansas
Enoch Stevenson 58 farmer
Harriett Stevenson 48


I looked up baptisms for a couple Philip Stevenson and Maria. They seem to have children baptised in the parish church at Stone between 1802 and 1810, including a Philip in 1804. I think he married Harriet Allman and they are the parents of Elizabeth b. 1845.

Philip and Maria seem to have switched to a non-conformist congregation after that, and have children baptised at Stone Independent Chapel in 1812, 1814 and 1816. I can't find a baptism for Enoch there, but he might well belong to this family. His age seems quite consistent in the records (not that that means much!) so born around 1824. It would be nice to get the second marriage checked for his father's name, but I don't know which church it was it, and it may even have been in a registry office.

Hope some of that helps.
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby grangers14 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:06 pm

4th August 1853. St Peters, Stoke upon Trent
Enoch Stevenson, Full, W, Tailor, Both in Fenton, Philip Stevenson, Tailor
Harriet Allcock, Full, S, George Allcock, Potter
Witnesses, Richard Donkin, Mary Hill
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby grangers14 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:39 pm

Witnesses to first marriage are James Donkin and Edward Baker.
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby AnnieD » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:41 pm

Thank you for all of the amazing information
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby gardener » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:15 am

The only other thing that caught my eye was this marriage

Name: Richard Stevenson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1804
Marriage Place: Saint Giles, Newcastle Under Lyme, Stafford, England
Spouse: Phebe Taylor
FHL Film Number: 1040775
Reference ID: 2:SDJ4BK

I wondered if Samuel might have been born before the marriage. But I can't see any connection with the Stone lot, and I'm only adding it here in case it ever comes in handy.
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby AnnieD » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:36 am

Thank you, I’ve now sorted out the two Harriets and can see clearly the DNA matches I have...thanks for your help
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby AnnieD » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:58 pm

Now if only we could find Samuel’s family....was he actually a widow when he arrived in Van Diemen’s Land as a convict is 1832? His convict record said he was a widow of 5 years? Was he a son of Philip Stevenson?
So many questions?
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby peterd » Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:30 pm

AnnieD wrote:Now if only we could find Samuel’s family....was he actually a widow when he arrived in Van Diemen’s Land as a convict is 1832? His convict record said he was a widow of 5 years? Was he a son of Philip Stevenson?
So many questions?

I'm not able to check right now but if Enoch go back to Phillip and Maria think they a large family including a samuel i think someone might able to check this
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Re: Samuel Stevenson -who was he?

Postby peterd » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:12 pm

AnnieD wrote:Now if only we could find Samuel’s family....was he actually a widow when he arrived in Van Diemen’s Land as a convict is 1832? His convict record said he was a widow of 5 years? Was he a son of Philip Stevenson?
So many questions?


might even be a Younger brother or cousin to Phillip
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