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Powell, 1841 Census, London.

Postby kr236rk » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:16 pm

Hi,

Newb here - hope this is the right category to post in please?

Found a thumbnail reference to a relative at 'thegenealogist' website. Can I access this census at a library please?

London 1841 Census
Name: Thomas Powell
Age: 50
Born In: 1791
Profession: Horsekeeper


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Thomas married a Charlotte but I don't know her maiden name. I'm also trying to trace Thomas' line.

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At the ‘ROOTS’ website appeared the following:-

"St John at Hampstead Camden, January 10th 1841 [census?]

POWELL Louisa - daughter of Thomas POWELL - Ostler and his wife Charlotte, Hampstead."

Louisa may have been my subsequent relative. An 'ostler' is a horsekeeper.

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The 1851 Census England Middlesex Hampstead [HO107/1492/114/15], 'Flash Walk' lists

"POWELL Charlotte, Head, Wid, 50, Washerwoman, Middlesex Hampstead
Louisa, Dau, Unmarr, 10, Middlesex Hampstead"

which all ties in.

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At 'findmypast' I found a reference to

"Thomas Powell Born 1798 Edmonton St John Hampstead Middlesex, London", but this is probably the wrong family because 'the genealogist' find (above) listed Powell as being born in 1791, on the 1841 Census. Thomas Powell was a popular name in the Victorian era, as was the profession of horsekeeping, so I am cautious.

Many thanks.
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Re: Powell, 1841 Census, London.

Postby Jimmy » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:26 pm

The only one I can see with a daughter Louisa.

1841. St John Hampstead.
Thomas Powell 45. Labourer.
Charlotte Powell 38.
Elizabeth Powell 19.
Sarah Powell 17.
Henry Powell 15.
Ann Powell 12.
Mary Powell 16.
Charlotte Powell 7.
Emma Powell 4.
Lousia Powell 6 Mo.

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Re: Powell, 1841 Census, London.

Postby Jimmy » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:40 pm

From Ancestry,

Louisa Powell.
Baptism Date: 10 Jan 1841.
Baptism Place: Hampstead St John, Camden.
Father: Thomas Powell Ostler.
Mother: Charlotte Powell.
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Re: Powell, 1841 Census, London.

Postby Jimmy » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:49 pm

From Ancestry,

Emma Powell.
Baptism Date: 22 Jan 1837.
Baptism Place: Hounslow Heath, Hounslow.
Father: Thomas Powell. Horse keeper.
Mother: Charlotte Powell.
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Re: Powell, 1841 Census, London.

Postby kr236rk » Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:23 pm

Jimmy wrote:The only one I can see with a daughter Louisa.

1841. St John Hampstead.
Thomas Powell 45. Labourer.
Charlotte Powell 38.
Elizabeth Powell 19.
Sarah Powell 17.
Henry Powell 15.
Ann Powell 12.
Mary Powell 16.
Charlotte Powell 7.
Emma Powell 4.
Lousia Powell 6 Mo.

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Thanks Jimmy :)

I'd previously seen this

1841 Census England Middlesex St John Hampstead
HO107/674/15/24

POWELL
Thomas 42 Labourer Not born in County
Charlotte 38 Born in County
Elizabeth 19 Born in County
Sarah 17 Born in County
Henry 15 Born in County
Ann 12 Born in County
Mary 16 Born in County
Charlotte 7 Born in County
Emma 4 Born in County
Louisa 6 mths Born in County

It is strange that the census has a discrepancy over Thomas' age?

Louisa's date of birth must be 1840/1. I had her down as being born earlier but that was probably my guesstimate.

Here we have:-

1851 Census England Middlesex Hampstead
HO107/1492/114/15
Flash Walk

POWELL
Charlotte Head Wid 50 Washerwoman Middlesex Hampstead
Henry Son Unmarr 22 Labourer Middlesex Hampstead
Charlotte Dau Unmarr 16 Servant Middlesex Hampstead
Emma Dau Unmarr 14 Middlesex Hounslow
Louisa Dau Unmarr 10 Middlesex Hampstead
Eliza Dau Unmarr 6 Middlesex Hampstead


again giving a birth year for Louisa as 1841, so this must be the correct family.
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Re: Powell, 1841 Census, London.

Postby kr236rk » Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:32 pm

This seems to be Louisa's birth certificate? - reference found at FindMyPast:-

Powell Louisa 1841 — 1841 England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Edmonton, Middlesex, England
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Re: Powell, 1841 Census, London.

Postby SRD » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:04 am

If your local library has Ancestry you will be able to look at the Census sheets for 1841 online and, depending on the library's policy, you might be able to print off a copy of the relevant page, or grab a screenshot, or download to a your own disc. The same is true for subsequent census records up to 1901. You can look at the individual household returns for 1911. Also the 1939 Register is available.

The 1841 Census is notorious for being out by up to five years on birth dates as dates were frequently rounded up or down to the nearest 5 years.

The General Register Office has info on births & deaths from 1837. If you want you can order pdf copies from them but that can get expensive on extended families, most of us are content with the online details.
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Re: Powell, 1841 Census, London.

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:03 am

Moving this to General Discussion
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Re: Powell, 1841 Census, London.

Postby kr236rk » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:54 pm

Thanks SRD,

Looking forward to accessing Ancestry through my local library.
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