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1881 Census: 17b House, Balsall Street, Birmingham
Rebecca Monks, Servant.UM, 15, General Servant, Birmingham

1891 Census: 53 Laurence Street,
Rebecca Monks, Visitor.S, 23, Domestic Servant, Birmingham
Household of Andrew & Louise Robins

Marriage: 20 January 1828 St Martin, Birmingham
Hamlet Monks of this parish Bachelor
Ann Groves of this parish Spinster
Wit: Edward Monks, Mary Ann Cadman

1841 Census: Coleman Street, Aston, Warks
Hamlet Monks, 30, File Manuf., Not born in County
Ann Monks, 35
John Monks, 7
Hamlet Monks, Son, 5
Thomas Monks, 3
Henry Monks, 2
Ann Monks, 1
(All others born in County)

1851 Census: 38 Loveday Street, Birmingham
Hamlet Monks, Head.Mar, 45, File Manufacturer, Cheshire
Ann Monks, Wife, 48
John Monks, Son.UM, 19, File Manufacturer
Thomas Monks, Son, 15, File Manufacturer
Henry Monks, Son, 13
Ann, Dau, 11
Emma Monks, Dau, 9
Joseph L Phillips, Loder, 16, Plymouth

Marriage: 19 February 1860 St Philip, Birmingham
Hamlet Monks, 53, Widower, File Maker, Loveday Street, Edward Monks, File Maker
Elizabeth Tomlinson, 27, Spinster, Duke Street, Thomas Tomlinson, Wheelwright
Wit: Job Allsop, Amelia Allsop

1861 Census: 38 Loveday Street, Birmingham
Hamlet Monks, Head.Mar, 54, File Cutter, Warrington, Lancs
Elizabeth Monks, Wife, 27, Birmingham

Death: Dec Qtr 1878 Birmingham Reg Dist
Hamlet MONK - 72yrs

Burial:
First name(s) Hamlet
Last name Monks
Birth year -
Death year 1878
Burial year 1878
Cemetery Witton Cemetery
Place Birmingham, Witton Cemetery
County Warwickshire
Country England
Family history society contact http://bmsgh-shop.org.uk/BIRM-Cemeteries
Source Warwickshire, Birmingham Burials, 1836-2010
Record set Warwickshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from England, Great Britain

Burial: 21 April 1850 St Philip, Birmingham
Hamlet son of Hamblet & Ann Monks - Loveday Street - Age: 16yrs

Thank you BC Wench. I can find nothing more on Hamlet or his father Edward...

Neither can I Sharon. The next place to look would be the family search web site.

I've not been following this but there are several entries in the London Gazette relating to insolvency proceedings against a Hamlet Monks which may be relevant.

Googling "Hamlet Monks" also threw up the following page: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/Liv ... 1871i.html you'll need to use your search engine to find it on the page.

Thanks for those SRD.

I also found on Lancashire Online Parish Clerk
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

This baptism for a Hamlet Monks, but dismissed it because of his father being a Weaver.

Baptism: 26 Jan 1806 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England (LOPC)
Hamblet Monks - Son of Edward Monks & Sarah
Occupation: Weaver

But have now found this

Baptism: 8 May 1808 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England (LOPC)
Thomas Monks - Son of Edward Monks & Sarah
Occupation: File Cutter

Marriage: 15 Oct 1804 St John, Liverpool, Lancashire, England (Lancashire Online Parish Clerk)
Edward Monks - File Cutter, Liverpool
Sarah Dobson - (X), Spinster, Same Parish
Witness: Robt. Bispham; Thomas Side
Married by Banns by: Richard Loxham

1841 Census: New John Street, St George Paris, Birmingham
Edward Monks, 55, File M(aker) J(ourneyman), not born in County
Sarah Monks, 50, not born in County
Sarah Monks, 25, Stay M(aker)
Amelia Monks, 17, Stay M(aker)
Edward Monks, 14
Samuel Monks, 11
Samuel Kay, 65, Brass Founder, not born in County
(Others born in County)

Baptism: 14 June 1830 St Philip, Birmingham (Born 13 Aug 1814) INDEXED AS SARAH GIBSON MONKS
Sarah Dobson Monks, Edward & Sarah Monks, Weaman Street, File Cutter

Baptism: 5 June 1827 St Philip, Birmingham (Born 21 Dec 1823)
Amelia Dobson Monks, Edward & Sarah Monks, New John Street, File Cutter

Baptism: 5 June 1827 St Philip, Birmingham (Born 21 Mar 1827)
Edward, Edward & Sarah Monks, New John Street, File Cutter

So to me it looks like Edward Monks & Sarah Dobson married in Liverpool, had at least 2 children Hamlet & Thomas, moved to Birmingham by the 1841 census, where their married son Hamlet was already living there in 1841 census.

There's a 6 years gap between the births of Thomas Monks (1808) - Sarah Dobson Monks (1814)

Over to you Sharon, see what you think.

I thought I'd found him, but dismissed the weaver theory too as on Hamlets second marriage cert his father Edward is a file cutter also. I think the Liverpool / Lancashire link is correct.
Thought..I wonder if the "weaver" was mis-transcribed or confused with the address of Weamen Street.

I was really stuck here....thank you both so much.