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Postby Red Alan » Mon May 09, 2016 7:14 am

Hi, I am new here and I am looking to trace some lost ancestors: Alfred Ingram lived in blackberry lane, Four Oaks, Sutton Coldfield, had a 2 brothers and a sister. Phylis Ingram, born Robinson grew up in Tamworth had one sister or more I am unsure about this side of my Family.

Many thanks for any help, Alan Ingram
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Postby sparkstopper » Mon May 09, 2016 1:05 pm

Welcome Alan, from a fellow Tamworthian....Can you add any dates of birth
for Alfred / Phylis..would help with searches.
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Postby Jimmy » Mon May 09, 2016 1:18 pm

Marriages Mar 1943.
Robinson Phyllis G. married Alfred L Ingram. Sutton Coldf'd. 6d. 1004.
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Postby Jimmy » Mon May 09, 2016 1:26 pm

Births Sep 1912.
Robinson Phyllis G, mothers maiden name Robinson. Tamworth 6b. 871.

Births Dec 1914.
Ingram Alfred L. mothers maiden name Cairns. Birmingham. 6d. 305.
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Postby Jimmy » Mon May 09, 2016 1:29 pm

Marriages Jun 1914.
Ingram William J. married Catherine M A Cairns. Birmingham. 6d. 383.
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Postby Jimmy » Mon May 09, 2016 1:59 pm

Jimmy wrote:Marriages Jun 1914.
Ingram William J. married Catherine M A Cairns. Birmingham. 6d. 383.


From Ancestry, image available,

Birmingham, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937.

William James Ingeam. 21. Bachelor.Turner and tool maker. Father Alfred Henry Ingeam. Brewer. ( Dec )

Catherine Mary Ann Cairns. 19. Spinster. Father: John Cairns. Brass worker. ( Dec )

Marriage Date: 13 Apr 1914.
Marriage Place: Winson Green, St Cuthbert, Warwickshire, England.
Reference Number: DRO 22.
Archive Roll: 604.

Address given as 51 Heath St, Winson Green.
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Postby sparkstopper » Mon May 09, 2016 4:00 pm

1911 Census: 80 Windmill Lane,Smethwick.
Arthur WEBB hd.64 Retired Signalman b.Warwick.
Rosa WEBB wife 43 b.Winson Green.
William James INGRAM stepson 17 Steelworker b.Smethwick.
Rose INGRAM stepdau. 20 Paper Bag Maker b.Smethwick.
Martha INGRAM stepdau.13 b.Smethwick.
Susannah INGRAM stepdau.15 Brass Screw Worker b.Smethwick.
Betsy Horton boarder 25 Laundry Ironer b. Langley.
Clara Ada Wheatcroft boarder 19 Swarfe Carrier b.Smethwick.
Robert Yates boarder 19 Dentists Assist. b.Wolverhampton.

Williams mother remarried:

1901 Census: Engine Public House, 500 Dudley Rd. Birmingham.
Alfred H. INGRAM hd.34 Public House Manager b.B'ham.
Rose INGRAM wife 34 b.Smethwick.
Ada H.INGRAM dau.15 Paper Bag Maker b.Staffs.
Annie INGRAM dau.11 b.Smethwick.
William J.INGRAM son 7 b.Smethwick.
Susannah INGRAM dau.5 b.Smethwick.
Martha INGRAM dau. 3 b.Smethwick.
Frederick Green Serv.17 Barman b.Oldbury.
Annie Hall Serv.17 Cook Domestic. b.Handsworth.
Betsy Beard Serv.15 House Maid b.Langley.
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Postby sparkstopper » Mon May 09, 2016 4:12 pm

1901 Census: Court House, 7 Ingleby St. B'ham.
John CAIRNS hd.46 Builders Lab. b. Dublin,Ire.
Mary A. CAIRNS wife 42 b.B'ham.
John CAIRNS son 13 b.B'ham.
Leonard CAIRNS son 12 b.B'ham.
Rebecca CAIRNS dau.10 b.B'ham.
Catherine CAIRNS dau.6 b.B'ham.
Lilly CAIRNS dau.3 b.B'ham.

1911 Census: 3 bk.26 Ingleby St. B'ham.
Mary Ann CAIRNS hd. Widow 53 b.B'ham.
Robert John CAIRNS son 23 Tube Drawer Iron. b.B'ham.
Leonard Patrick CAIRNS son 21 Tube Drawer. b.B'ham.
Catherine Mary Ann CAIRNS dau.16 Brass Polisher b.B'ham.
Lily CAIRNS dau.12 b.B'ham.
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Postby sparkstopper » Mon May 09, 2016 4:25 pm

1939 Register Trans.
135 Birmingham Rd. Sutton Coldfield.
John E. Cox d.o,b. 25th.May 1880. Wholesale Drug Manufactures & Chem.
Lilian R.Cox d.o.b. 21st.Feb.1884
Phyllis G.INGRAM (ROBINSON). d.o.b.7th.July 1912. Domestic Servant.

N.B. Phyllis must have been living with William before they married in 1943.
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Postby Red Alan » Tue May 10, 2016 6:27 am

Many thanks for all of the info!

1939 Register Trans.
135 Birmingham Rd. Sutton Coldfield.
John E. Cox d.o,b. 25th.May 1880. Wholesale Drug Manufactures & Chem.
Lilian R.Cox d.o.b. 21st.Feb.1884
Phyllis G.INGRAM (ROBINSON). d.o.b.7th.July 1912. Domestic Servant.

This fits my Mother was in service at this time.

I cannot recall all of the details, but she was born on 7.7.1912 and lived by an Aunt in the near from the River Tame. I remember that we were often in Polesworth and to get to some other relatives we walked past the viaduct. Sorry, that is all I have at the moment. Oh, also she had either a Brother or Sister I knew them as Les and Freda and they lived in the near from her Mother.

I am grateful for any info!

My father was born 28.09.1914 in Lichfield, Staffordshire, United Kingdom
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Postby Jimmy » Tue May 10, 2016 7:53 am

1891. 208 Cape Hill, Harbourne, Smethwick.
Alfred Hy Ingham 23. Brewers labourer. Birmingham.
Rose Ingham 23. Birmingham.
Ada Eleanor Ingham 5. Cradley Heath.
Annie Ingham 11/12. Smethwick.

Staffordshire.
Place Rowley Regis.
Church name St Luke (Reddal Hill).
Register type Transcript.
Register entry number 44.
Marriage date 27 Apr 1885.
Groom forename Alfred
Groom surname INGRAM.
Groom age 19.
Groom condition bachelor.
Groom abode Cradley Heath.
Groom occupation brewer.
Bride forename Rose
Bride surname TURTON.
Bride age 18.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride abode Cradley Heath.
Groom father forename Alfred
Groom father surname INGRAM.
Groom father occupation builder.
Bride father forename Samuel
Bride father surname TURTON,
Bride father occupation blacksmith.
Witness1 forename Thomas Hingley
Witness1 surname PARSONS,
Witness2 forename Sarah Ann
Witness2 surname TUSTIN?,
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Postby Jimmy » Tue May 10, 2016 8:05 am

Alfred with parents,

1881. 500 Dudley Road, Birmingham.
Alfred Ingram 42. Licensed victuallar.
Susannah Ingram 42. Stourbridge.
Annie Ingram 20.
Emma Ingram 18.
Ada Ingram 15.
Alfred H. Ingram 13.
George Ingram 9.
Mariam Ingram 5.
Clifford Ingram 3.
Martha Ingram 0.

All others born Birmingham.

1871. 248 Great Lister St, Aston.
Alfred Ingram 32. Brick layer.
Susannah Ingram 32. Stourbridge.
Annie Ingram 10.
Emma Ingram 7.
Ada Ingram 5.
Alfred H Ingram 3.

All others born Birmingham.

1861. 5 Roster St, Aston.
Alfred Ingram 23. Brick layer.
Susanna Ingram 22. Stourbridge.
Albert Ingram 2.
Ann Ingram 2/12.

Marriages Sep 1857.
Ingram Alfred. Birmingham. 6d. 246.
Wood Susannah. Birmingham. 6d. 246.
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