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Help Needed please

Postby little pam » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:12 pm

Hi I am still new to this and not getting on very well could anyone please help with any info on the names below

Arthur Austin Kemp born st May 1920 from Duddeston Aston
Wife Ivy Kemp formerly Field
Married on the 9th aug 1941
Father William James Kemp
Mother Edith Ellsie formerly Sheppard also from Duddeston Aston

I have tried to do a census but i don't have the know how and what i have tried
brings no info think this is more harder to do than i thought but don't want to give up really
but its sending me crazy

appreciate any of your help thanks

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Re: Help Needed please

Postby Antie Em » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:47 pm

Hello Pam

What information do you have for a census ? The last census to be released is the 1911, so you will probably be able to find their parents. Do you have access to Ancestry or Find My Past ?

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Re: Help Needed please

Postby Antie Em » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:57 pm

Do you have the marriage for William and Elsie Pam ? I can't find it on the marriage index

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Re: Help Needed please

Postby little pam » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:01 pm

Antie Em No sorry only have what is above

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Re: Help Needed please

Postby little pam » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:02 pm

Hi Antie Em Thanks for the reply No I don't have any access I have only just started this week to do this
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Re: Help Needed please

Postby snoopysue » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:32 pm

Antie Em wrote:Do you have the marriage for William and Elsie Pam ? I can't find it on the marriage index

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I couldn't find a marriage either, but I did find this on the 1911 Census, don't know if it's relevant or not!

38 Couchman Road Saltley B'ham
William Kemp, Head, Married, 30, Stone Labourer, Droitwich Worcestershire
Edith Kemp, Wife, Married 4 years, 27, Warrickshire Birmingham
Thomas Tustin, Brother, Single, 18, Metal Liner, Warrickshire Birmingham
Francis Tustin, Brother, Single, 14, Errand Boy, Warrickshire Birmingham
Thomas Kemp, Son, 3, Warrickshire Birmingham
Edith Kemp, Daughter, 1, Warrickshire Birmingham

Begs the question, if Thomas and Francis are Edith's Brothers, was she married before. It looks as though William and Edith married in 1907.
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Re: Help Needed please

Postby snoopysue » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:33 pm

There is this:

William James Kemp

Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1906
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 567

Names on page:
Thomas Faulkner
William James Kemp
Mary Ann Smart
Edith Emily Tustin
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Re: Help Needed please

Postby snoopysue » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:46 pm

I've found Arthur's birth record, no doubt that the mother's surname is Sheppard. I wonder if there's a transcription error
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Re: Help Needed please

Postby snoopysue » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:51 pm

There is an Edith Kemp who died in 1915, and then this:

KEMP, William J
Registration district: Aston
County:Warwickshire
Year of registration:1917
Quarter of registration:Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Plater

Spouse's Name:PLATER, Edith E
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Re: Help Needed please

Postby snoopysue » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:54 pm

Edith was married before:

Name:SHEPPARD, Edith E
Registration district: Aston
County:Warwickshire
Year of registration:1914
Quarter of registration:Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last namePlater
Volume no: 6D
Page no: 907

Spouse's Name:PLATER, Frank

Frank seems to have died in the 3rd quarter of 1914.
It looks like both Edith Sheppard and William Kemp were married before, and both were widowed.
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Re: Help Needed please

Postby snoopysue » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:15 pm

You probably know this but there are the following children born with Sheppard as mother's maiden name:

Jessie Kemp 1917 - Aston
Ivy M Kemp 1919 - Aston
Arthur A Kemp 1920 - Aston
Beatrice J Kemp 1922 - Aston
Lewis Kemp 1924 - B'ham North
Irene E Kemp 1926 (1st quarter) - B'ham North
Kathleen I Kemp 1926 (4th quarter) Ipswich

The last one's a bit strange, but it is just possible!
Unfortunately the baptisms for Birmingham on ancestry only go up to 1912.
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Re: Help Needed please

Postby little pam » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:59 pm

Hi snoopysue Thank you so much ...yes a lot of it falls into place the last lot are uncles and aunties but all have now died
can I ask how do I do a census and what site do i find it on to do it

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Re: Help Needed please

Postby Antie Em » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:26 pm

Hello again Pam

You won't find either of them on any census. There is a 100 year privacy law which prevents details on census being published until it is 100 years old. The next census is the 1921 census, which should be published in 2021.

You will need to see the 1911 census, but on this you will only be able to find their parents. There are a few free sites where you can view census information : 1881 is held on the LDS site here : https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1321821

There are some census records held on FreeCen here : http://www.freecen.org.uk

The 1911 census, as far as I am aware is only on Pay per View sites such as Ancestry and Find My Past, both of these sites you will have to sign up to.

I think before you can go any further back with your research, you will need to find marriage information on the parents.

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Re: Help Needed please

Postby little pam » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:38 pm

Hi Maggie Thanks so much for the sites I will keep looking ...as they are all now dead nobody to ask
But you have been very helpful

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Re: Help Needed please

Postby SRD » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:55 am

Your local library may have access to Ancestry.com where census records can be found.
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