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Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:45 pm
by Brani 56
Hi, Is there anyone who can help me, please, with ancestry in Polebrook?
Trying to trace name Butt/Bott, Malpot, Slawson, Smeaton and Gilder.
Any assistance would be gratefully received.
Tony Feist.

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:20 pm
by grangers14
I will move this over to general section Tony. This area is just to give advise and not actual help.
You will get more help in that area.
Jo :)

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:42 pm
by grangers14
Do you have any more info to help search?

Theres this...

1901. Polebrook
Frances Butt, head, W, 51, Grocer, Hemington

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:31 pm
by Brani 56
Samuel BUTT married Susannah LEECH Oct 1825 @ Polebrook.

His father, William BOTT married Susan MALPOT Oct 1786 @ Polebrook,

His father, William BOTT married Elisabeth SMEATON

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:11 pm
by grangers14
So do you have census etc from 1841 onwards?
Jo :)

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:32 pm
by Brani 56
What details I have comes from work done some years ago.
Not sure where it came from.
Regards
Tony

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:41 pm
by Northern Lass
Brani 56 wrote:Samuel BUTT married Susannah LEECH Oct 1825 @ Polebrook.

His father, William BOTT married Susan MALPOT Oct 1786 @ Polebrook,

His father, William BOTT married Elisabeth SMEATON


Think you need to let us know what you want re info
ie what do you have already?

no point in us giving info if you already have it.

so where do you want to start?
which piece of info would you like help with :?

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:39 pm
by Brani 56
Thank you for your patience.
It's so easy to ask for too much information at a time.
I think best starting point would be parents of Susannah LEECH who married Samuel BUTT 5 Oct. 1825 @ Polebrook.
Thanks again,
Tony

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 4:19 pm
by grangers14
Once you get to Parish records its very difficult to correctly doccument if you have no other information.
Susannahs marriage may not have her father down, even as a witness. Finding her birth parents will probably be very hard to be certain its the correct one.

It may be worth your while checking from start going back over to make sure what info you have is correct.

The parish records will be held local to the area and you can always try here
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi

or freereg
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Jo :)

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:56 pm
by gardener
Here are Samuel and Susannah's kids, from free reg

4 Baptisms 04 Feb 1827 BUTT William Northamptonshire Polebrook
5 Baptisms 27 Jun 1828 BUTT Sarah Ann Northamptonshire Polebrook
7 Baptisms 15 Aug 1830 BUTT Francis Northamptonshire Polebrook
8 Baptisms 11 Mar 1832 BUTT George Northamptonshire Polebrook
9 Baptisms 11 Apr 1834 BUTT Samuel Northamptonshire Polebrook says father desceased


Perhaps they will help locate the parents in the census, which might give a clue about where Susannah comes from and when she was born?

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:07 pm
by grangers14
So children born out of wedlock if marriage wasnt till 1825? I couldnt find the marriage?
Jo :)

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:10 pm
by gardener
grangers14 wrote:So children born out of wedlock if marriage wasnt till 1825? I couldnt find the marriage?
Jo :)


Sorry jo, am editing, made mistakes there, hang on...

... think taht is right now, the others were a different Samuel (and a Sarah)

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:16 pm
by gardener
County Northamptonshire
Place Polebrook
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 41
MarriageDate 05 Oct 1825
GroomForename Samuel
GroomSurname BUTT
GroomCondition Bachelor
BrideForename Susannah
BrideSurname LEECH
BrideCondition Spinster
WitnessOneForename Wm
WitnessOneSurname SANSOME
Notes He signs X. She signs X.
FileNumber 34283

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:41 pm
by gardener
So this could be Samuel's death?

County Northamptonshire
Place Polebrook
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 144
BurialDate 23 Nov 1833
Forename Samuel
Surname BUTT
Age 25
Abode Polebrook
Notes Age could be 23
FileNumber 34282

which gives possible birth year of 1808 so this could be Samuel?

County Northamptonshire
Place Polebrook
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 21 Feb 1808
BaptismDate 04 Mar 1808
Forename Saml
Sex M
FatherForename
MotherForename Eliz
FatherSurname
MotherSurname BOTT
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes Illegitimate
FileNumber 518

except that you have a father William? (Just trying to find out how old Samuel was to see if Susannah was the same age. Susannah is always a tricky name because it can be shortened to Hannah in records).

Re: Polebrook, Northhants.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:25 pm
by grangers14
Shame just missing certificates!


County Northamptonshire
Place Polebrook
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber72
MarriageDate 28 Mar 1837
GroomForename Henry
GroomSurname DEAN
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Susannah
BrideSurname BUTT
BrideAge
BrideParish Oundle
BrideCondition Widow
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Robert
WitnessOneSurname GROOM
WitnessTwoForename
WitnessTwoSurname
Notes
He signs X. She signs X.
FileNumber
34283