William France

[lancsman]

I am trying to trace the parents of William France birth abt 1868, Sheffield, Yorkshire.

Married to Maria Hunt on 22 Feb 1892, Eckington, Derbyshire.
Children: Arnold, Ethel, Edith, William, Cyril, Hayla and Bramwell France.
Any help greatly appreciated.

[peterd]

you might be best sending for marriage cert you should get williams father on it
Marriages Mar 1892
Clarke Isaline Chesterfield 7b 864
FRANCE William Chesterfield 7b 864
HUNT Maria Chesterfield 7b 864
Smith James Edward Chesterfield 7b 864

[lancsman]

The 1911 Census: address 23 Liddell Terrace, Gateshead,
job: Life Assurance Superintendent.
This has been confirmed by family.

I have just checked the large amount of certs and have got Williams & Maria's Wedding Cert.
Maria's father - William Hunt,
witness's Albert Edward & Mary E Kirby.
No father named for William France.

Any additional avenues/thoughts.

[Northern Lass]

Looks like wit is sister to Maria Hunt?

poss...Marriages Dec 1888
BERESFORD Rose Chesterfield 7b 1085
HUNT Mary Eleanor Chesterfield 7b 1085
Jones Edmund Chesterfield 7b 1085
Kirby Albert Edward Chesterfield 7b 1085

[Northern Lass]

Found them on Ancestry mistrans as Spance! looks like France on image

1901 3? Alfred St Ripley Derbyshire
Wm France 33 head m 33 Life assurance b Sheffield Yorks
Maria France 29 b Eckington Derbys
Arnold France 8 ditto
Ethel France 7 ditto
Edith France 3 b Bradford Yorks
Wm France 1 b Nottingham
Gladys France 6 Months b Ripley Derbyshire

1911 23 Liddell Terrace, Gateshead
William France 43 b Sheffield Yorks
Marier France 41 b Eckington Derbyshire
Arnold France 18 b Eckington Derbyshire
Ethel France 17 b Eckington Derbyshire
Edith France 13 b Bradford Yorks
William France 11 b Nottingham
Cyril France 8 b Burton on trent
Hyla France 6 b Walsall
Bramwell France 4 b Hanley staffs

[lancsman]

Will have to check but I have no knowledge of Gladys

[lancsman]

OK for transcript to be posted.

[Northern Lass]

OK for transcript to be posted.

Lancsman what did you make out the name of res he puts?


Ok this is a section of the certif which has the name that Wm France puts down as residence can anyone read it pls

----brngle?

and here is the marriage info
22 February 1892 Parish Church of Eckington Derby
William France 24 bach miner? (cant read res see eg) _________ no father is on certif
Maria Hunt 20 spinster Eckington William Hunt miner
banns
both signed
Wit - Albert Edward Kirby Mary Ellenor Kirby

[lancsman]

NL, I was looking at the map and was thinking borough, maybe Worsbrough or Mexborough, both north of Eckington.

[rockyfowler]

1871
CROSHER, George Head M 50 1821 Yorkshire
CROSHER, Walter Son M 21 1850 Yorkshire
CROSHER, Elizebeth Daughter F 16 1855 Yorkshire
CROSHER, Albert Son M 14 1857 Yorkshire
CROSHER, Thomas Son M 12 1859 Yorkshire
ROBERSON, Sarah Lodger F 35 1836 At Sea
CHARLESON, John Lodger M 28 1843 ??
FRANCE, William Lodger M 4 1867 Sheffield

Bank Lane, West, Sheffield

County: Yorkshire

[Jimmy]

1881. No 48 Backfield, Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire.
Joseph France 44. Hawker. Mar.
Elizabeth Norton 33. Serv. Unm.
William France 13. Son.
John Norton 10.
Mary France Norton 6
Joseph France Norton 3.
George E.F. Norton 1.
All born Sheffield.

Not with Joseph in 1891.

1891. Byre Lane, Sheffield.
Joseph France 56. Widow. Hawker fish fruit.
Joseph N France 13. Son.
George E France 11. Son.
Samuel France 6. Son.
All born Sheffield.

[Jimmy]

I can't see him in 1891.

[Northern Lass]

Do we have the death date for William France?
dont suppose there was a birth date with it?
on the death certifs later ones sometimes there is

When did he die Lancsman? and where?

[lancsman]

Do we have the death date for William France?
dont suppose there was a birth date with it?
on the death certifs later ones sometimes there is

When did he die Lancsman? and where?

Sorry, no record of his death.

[Northern Lass]

do you know where he actually died?

do you have the lines from Wm and Maria where did they end up living?

On marriages of kids is Wm down as deceased? you seem to have a tree on Ancestry and kids look as though
marrying in Lancaster Lancs.


What does it say on marriages do you have the certifs
does it say Wm is deceased

poss...
Name: William France
Birth Date: abt 1867
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Lancaster
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 793

poss
Name: Maria France
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1934
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 362


death certifs can be very helpful sometimes you get an informant that holds the key