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Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:13 pm

100 years ago the ill fated Titanic set Sail on 10 April from Southampton with many passengers from many walks of life.
Many of those lost their lives 5 days later when the ship hit an iceberg on its maiden voyage.

The Anchor was made by HIngleys of Netherton
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... s-ago.html

We have remembered some from the Black Country area here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =290257412
scroll down to the article in the Black Country Bugle.

There must be many stories maybe we can remember a few of these people here.
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby FarSide » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:21 pm

Don't know why but can't copy names over
http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_ ... nces.shtml

Passengers from Worcestershire
http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_ ... land.shtml
Henry Samuel Morley
Kate Florence Phillips
Henry John Spinner

Staffordshire
http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_ ... land.shtml
Julia Florence Cavendish
Tyrell William Cavendish
James Lester

Stafford
http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_ ... land.shtml
Ellen Barber

West Bromwich
http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_ ... land.shtml
Alfred Davies
John Samuel Davies
Joseph Davies
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby MarkCDodd » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:24 pm

Born Birmingham.

Name v Age Class/Dept Ticket Fare Group Ship Joined Job Boat Body
BARNETT, Mr Percy B. 29 (Carpathia) Asst. Purser
DOLBY, Mr Joseph 36 Victualling Belfast Reception Room Steward
DUFFIN, Mr H. James 26 (Carpathia) Scullion / Scullery Maid
HILL, Mr C. 48 (Carpathia) Sailor
ROBERTS, Mr Frederick (Frank John?) 36 Victualling Belfast Third Butcher 231
WARD, Mr Edward 34 Victualling Belfast Bed Room Steward
WOOD, Mr Henry 30 Engine Southampton Trimmer
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby MarkCDodd » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:26 pm

From West Brom and Wolverhampton:

Three West Bromwich men, Alfred Davies, aged 21, John Davies, aged 22, and Joseph Davies, aged 17 years, all of Hardware Street, and a relative named James Lester, aged 39, of Wolverhampton are believed to be among the ill-fated passengers. They left on Tuesday week intending to join other members of the Davies family who are in Canada.

Two of the young Davies's were employed at Page's Works, West Bromwich, where the father is a puddler. Alfred Davies married a girl from Oldbury on the day prior to sailing. The party had difficulty in catching the Titanic, but in a letter from Queenstown stated that they were having a most pleasant voyage.

Mr James Lester, 39, of Harwood Street, West Bromwich, England, boarded the Titanic at Southampton, he was travelling to Pontiac, MI. Accompanying him were his three nephews Alfred, John, and Joseph Davies. All four men lived at the same address with the Davies' parents. Lester worked as a galvaniser at Ettingshall, Wolverhampton. Lester's wife was a sister of Mrs Davies, the mother of the three brothers.

All four men lost their lives in the disaster.
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby MarkCDodd » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:33 pm

The whole Sage family died and Annie Elizabeth Sage nee Cazaly says she was born Wolverhampon in the 1911 census.

1911 census transcription details for: 246 Gladstone St Peterborough
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN8688 RG78PN450 RD170 SD2 ED22 SN194

Reg. District: Peterborough Sub District: Peterborough
Parish: Peterborough Within Enum. District: 22
Address: 246 Gladstone St Peterborough
County: Northamptonshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
SAGE, John G Head Married M 43 1868 Hackney Middlesex
SAGE, Annie Wife Married
20 years F 44 1867 Wolverhamton Staff
SAGE, Stella Daughter Single F 19 1892 No Occupation Hackney Middlesex
SAGE, George Son Single M 18 1893 Coachman Domestic Hackney Middlesex
SAGE, Fred Son M 15 1896 Assistant Labour Bricklayer Hackney Middlesex
SAGE, Dorothy Daughter F 13 1898 School Hackney Middlesex
SAGE, William Son M 11 1900 School Hackney Middlesex
SAGE, Ada Daughter F 9 1902 School Wootton Norfolk
SAGE, Constance Daughter F 6 1905 School Wootton Norfolk
SAGE, Thomas Son M 5 1906 Wootton Norfolk
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby FarSide » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:33 pm

Mark
From West Brom and Wolverhampton:

Three West Bromwich men, Alfred Davies, aged 21, John Davies, aged 22, and Joseph Davies, aged 17 years, all of Hardware Street, and a relative named James Lester, aged 39, of Wolverhampton are believed to be among the ill-fated passengers. They left on Tuesday week intending to join other members of the Davies family who are in Canada.

Two of the young Davies's were employed at Page's Works, West Bromwich, where the father is a puddler. Alfred Davies married a girl from Oldbury on the day prior to sailing. The party had difficulty in catching the Titanic, but in a letter from Queenstown stated that they were having a most pleasant voyage.

Mr James Lester, 39, of Harwood Street, West Bromwich, England, boarded the Titanic at Southampton, he was travelling to Pontiac, MI. Accompanying him were his three nephews Alfred, John, and Joseph Davies. All four men lived at the same address with the Davies' parents. Lester worked as a galvaniser at Ettingshall, Wolverhampton. Lester's wife was a sister of Mrs Davies, the mother of the three brothers.

All four men lost their lives in the disaster.


That's brillant Mark, I think this maybe Alfred and bros on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ies-Family

more about him
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/ti ... avies.html

Mr Alfred Davies, 24, a cupola worker, of 29, Harwood Street, West Bromwich, England, boarded the Titanic at Southampton, he was travelling to Pontiac, MI.

Accompanying Alfred were his brothers John Davies and Joseph Davies, they were joined by their uncle James Lester and all four men lived at the same address with the Davies' parents. John and Joseph worked with father - Richard Davies, a puddler, at Messrs Adams of Ettingshall, Wolverhampton. Lester a galvaniser also at Ettingshall, Wolverhampton. Lester's wife was a sister of Mrs Davies, the mother of the three brothers.

Richard Davies had two other sons in America. One had left 7 years previously, the other accompanied this brother when he returned the last Christmas on holiday. They lived at Pontiac near Detroit. Doing so well the others were to join them.

The three brothers and Lester were to go in advance and then send money for Mr and Mrs Davies and four younger children to follow. Lester broke up his home and his wife and children went to live with Mr and Mrs Davies until sent for.

Alfred, the eldest Davies son, had married the day before he left for Southampton to a girl he had courted for some years. The wedding was at Oldbury parish church on Monday April 8th. Alfred's new wife went to live with her mother - Mrs Cartwright at Brades Village, Oldbury until her new husband sent for her.

A tearful Mr Davies (senior) said they were "fine big lads" adding that they were "the best of sons"

The four men left West Bromwich on Tuesday April 9th to join the 3rd class of the Titanic. They almost missed the boat because they got the train time wrong from West Bromwich, it left at 5.00 am not 7.00 am. So they had to make a hurried departure by tram to Birmingham to catch the train there. They wrote home from Southampton and Queenstown saying they were "comfortable" and having an "enjoyable passage".

All four men lost their lives in the disaster.

Documents
The Free Press (West Bromwich), 19 April 1912, West Bromwich Men Missing
The Staffordshire Advertiser, 20 April 1912, Article

References
Birmingham Daily Gazette, April 16 1912 - April 29 inc.

Marriages Jun 1912
Cartwright Ann M Davies W.Bromwich 6b 1462
Davies Alfred J Cartwright W. Bromwich 6b 1462
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby MarkCDodd » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:42 pm

Victim Mr Henry John Spinner was born in 1880 in Arboretum, Worcestershire. He was the son of George (glove cutter) and Ellen Spinner.

Ada Haste tried to commit suicide by jumping in front of a train at Newport, Shropshire. Her beau, M.V Middleton, had died on the Titanic.
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby FarSide » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:11 pm

Accompanying Alfred were his brothers John Davies and Joseph Davies, they were joined by their uncle James Lester and all four men lived at the same address with the Davies' parents. John and Joseph worked with father - Richard Davies, a puddler, at Messrs Adams of Ettingshall, Wolverhampton. Lester a galvaniser also at Ettingshall, Wolverhampton. Lester's wife was a sister of Mrs Davies, the mother of the three brothers.


Poss
Marriages Mar 1885
Cox Mary Ann Wolverhampton 6b 617
Davies Richard James Wolverhampton 6b 617

Marriages Sep 1900
Cox Alice Dudley 6c 198
Lester James Dudley 6c 198
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby Dennis » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:34 am

For what it's worth, I once knew a lady who must have been in her 60s in the 1960s whose brother went down with the Titanic. Her married name was Mary Lorraine or Lorrain and she was, I believe, the daughter of a mayor of Sheffield. This was not in our area but in Stamford, Lincolnshire, where my wife's family lived and whose friend she was. I've often wished I'd found out more. The Titanic was a big event then, but it's become an enormous focus of interest now. I have a collector friend who recently paid good money for a tiny piece of coal from the ship.
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby Northern Lass » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:55 am

Thanks I have added some of that to the Bcc tree.

I am moving this to General Discussion so that any others may add to this thread regarding
people from outside the BC area.

What a dreadful tragedy.
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby snoopysue » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:25 pm

I'm probably like other people, I grew up hearing that someone or other in the family nearly bourght a ticket on the Titanic, but for some reason they didn't. Unfortunately I don't remember who, and the only family (that I've found) that did emigrate to North America did it about 20 years later!

I take the story with a very large grain of salt as it's so vague, almost like the story of the two spinster sister's who came visiting from Australia who were supposed to be the daughters (or at least descendents) of someone who was transported - unfortunately I only have a vague idea as to which part of the family they were from, so it's a needle in a haystack!!
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby FarSide » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:55 pm

Passengers from Worcestershire
http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_ ... land.shtml
Henry Samuel Morley
Kate Florence Phillips


http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/ti ... orley.html
Mr Henry Samuel Morley, 39, lived at 22, Foregate St, Worcester, England and was senior partner in the firm of L.Morley, confectioners which had branches in High St, Birmingham; Bristol St, Birmingham; and also in Worcester. Morley told friends that he was travelling to Los Angeles principally to recuperate after illness but in fact he was eloping with Kate Florence Phillips. They boarded the Titanic at Southampton, as second class passengers, under the names of Mr and Mrs Marshall.

Morley died in the sinking. His firm's shops closed for a day after his fate became known, as a mark of respect. He left a wife and one child.

References
Birmingham Daily Gazette, April 16 1912 - April 29 inc.

1891
4 Florence Terrace, Kings norton
Thomas Phillips 28 - Engine fitter - b Worcester
Mary Phillips 36 - b Worcester
Charles Phillips 4 - b Washwood Heath b'ham
Agnes Phillips 5 - b Sparkhill
Nellie Phillips 2 - b Washwood Heath b'ham

1901
Mardley? Road, North Hallow
Thomas Phillips 38 - Engine & machine fitter - b Worcester
Mary Phillips 40 - b Hallow
Charles Phillips 14
Ellen Phillips 12
Kate Phillips 8
Edith Phillips 2 - b Broadheath
others Birmingham

1911
34 Waterworks Rd Worcester
Thomas C Phillips 48 - Machine Fitter - b Worcester
Mary Phillips 50 - b Hallow
Kate Phillips 18 - Confectionery Shop Assistant - b Sparkbrook, Worcestershire
Edith Phillips 12 - b Hallow
Parents married 27 years, 5 kids born and still alive
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby sp1 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:35 am

FarSide wrote:
Passengers from Worcestershire
http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_ ... land.shtml
Henry Samuel Morley
Kate Florence Phillips


http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/ti ... orley.html
Mr Henry Samuel Morley, 39, lived at 22, Foregate St, Worcester, England and was senior partner in the firm of L.Morley, confectioners which had branches in High St, Birmingham; Bristol St, Birmingham; and also in Worcester. Morley told friends that he was travelling to Los Angeles principally to recuperate after illness but in fact he was eloping with Kate Florence Phillips. They boarded the Titanic at Southampton, as second class passengers, under the names of Mr and Mrs Marshall.

Morley died in the sinking. His firm's shops closed for a day after his fate became known, as a mark of respect. He left a wife and one child.

References
Birmingham Daily Gazette, April 16 1912 - April 29 inc.

1891
4 Florence Terrace, Kings norton
Thomas Phillips 28 - Engine fitter - b Worcester
Mary Phillips 36 - b Worcester
Charles Phillips 4 - b Washwood Heath b'ham
Agnes Phillips 5 - b Sparkhill
Nellie Phillips 2 - b Washwood Heath b'ham

1901
Mardley? Road, North Hallow
Thomas Phillips 38 - Engine & machine fitter - b Worcester
Mary Phillips 40 - b Hallow
Charles Phillips 14
Ellen Phillips 12
Kate Phillips 8
Edith Phillips 2 - b Broadheath
others Birmingham

1911
34 Waterworks Rd Worcester
Thomas C Phillips 48 - Machine Fitter - b Worcester
Mary Phillips 50 - b Hallow
Kate Phillips 18 - Confectionery Shop Assistant - b Sparkbrook, Worcestershire
Edith Phillips 12 - b Hallow
Parents married 27 years, 5 kids born and still alive

I heard about this on the radio last week - I think they said she was pregnant, survived, and returned to England.
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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby westbromval » Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:08 pm

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Re: Titanic 100 years 10 April 1912-10 April 2012

Postby Rob » Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:39 pm

What's that mean Val? Was Herbert on the Titanic?
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