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Postby mjay » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:52 pm

Hi all

I've finally got round to sorting my family history folder out, and am ready to start sending off for birth certificates
(I know only 12months later lol)
But now I've left it so long I forgot what to do
I have found info on BMD I need and have found register offices online.
My question is how do I start if unsure of mothers name, know where born but don't have address where born
I'm going back to joseph Yates 1893/4 born birmingham father samuel, that Jan helped with last year and loads have been put on BCC page waiting for me to send off for these Certs. Sorry for delay


Help I'm seeing double and getting very confused be gentle with me hehehe!!!

Thank you Mandy :roll:
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Re: Help

Postby linell » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:30 pm

You don't need that information Mjay, the Index No from Free BMD, the name, registration district and year, it's been awhile since I ordered one, but I believe that adding the parents names are optional, best to add them though if you are not sure you have the correct birth registration.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/cert ... efault.asp

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Re: Help

Postby Northern Lass » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:16 pm

so this is yours
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... tes-Family

what are you after?
tell us and we can guide you.
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Re: Help

Postby mjay » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:20 pm

Thank Linell

Hi Jan
yep thats me on your link to bcc
I would like to send off for Joseph Yates born Birmingham 1893/4 and one other siblings Lillian B 1925 born Dudley birth certificates to check mother and father. Believed to be Samuel and a Mary Ann

Then I believe I can get marriage checked for Samuels father

Am I doing ok

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Re: Help

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:30 pm

linell wrote:You don't need that information Mjay, the Index No from Free BMD, the name, registration district and year, it's been awhile since I ordered one, but I believe that adding the parents names are optional, best to add them though if you are not sure you have the correct birth registration.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/cert ... efault.asp

HTH Linell.


Do you mean 1925 mjay for lillian?

as Linell says above the GRO you need that volume and Page no from free bmd
you can order online and put the fathers name and mother I think have a look at the GRO site.

let us know who the mother is if you don't mind :wink:
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Re: Help

Postby mjay » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:51 pm

Hi Jan
Yes 1925 Lillian B

Of course i Will let you know I wanna help increase those numbers on bcc

Thanx again 8)
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Re: Help

Postby mjay » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:35 pm

Sent off for Jospehs birth certificate.
Just as i thought I knew what I was doing I get a Phone call today from Birmingham office they have found 2 Joseph's both fathers samuel ???
Guy very nice we worked out father Samuels occupation from birth cert compared to Jospehs marriage cert
Went for certificate with mothers name Mary Ann as this is what you've all helped me find so far.
On jospehs marriage cert hes a safe make and also on 1911 census Jospeh is a safe maker with mother Mary Ann

Will await certificate

Thanx :roll:
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Re: Help

Postby Northern Lass » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:47 pm

mjay wrote:Sent off for Jospehs birth certificate.
Just as i thought I knew what I was doing I get a Phone call today from Birmingham office they have found 2 Joseph's both fathers samuel ???
Guy very nice we worked out father Samuels occupation from birth cert compared to Jospehs marriage cert
Went for certificate with mothers name Mary Ann as this is what you've all helped me find so far.
On jospehs marriage cert hes a safe make and also on 1911 census Jospeh is a safe maker with mother Mary Ann

Will await certificate

Thanx :roll:


Is that Mr Yates at Birmingham? he is so helpful a really nice guy.

How kind of them to take the time to phone you
I think Dudley Sandwell and Birmingham Register Office are all amazing! :clap: :clap:
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Re: Help

Postby mjay » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:57 pm

Yes Mr Yates
Although not related I asked him lol :lol:
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Re: Help

Postby mjay » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:24 pm

Help again pleaseeee

Well the birth Certs arrived
Don't think it's the right one !!!

Joseph Yates 4.4.1893 born Birmingham
What reads like Church Grove Mona Rd Aston
Father Samuel occupation Iron Polisher journeyman
Mother Mary Ann formally what's looks like, Nordward, Noodward or ??? ( not what you guys had found Mary Ann Severn)

I will try and scan it see if you guys can read it

Thanx :roll:
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Re: Help

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:19 pm

We havent added in marriage only put as a possible

did you get another certif why dont you ask Mr Yates if one of the other kids or all of them have mother as for Joseph
or rather Wolverhampton regis office
they should be able to advise.

Occupation looks good for Samuel

1881 4, Monmore Lane House, 1 Court, Willenhall
YATES, Samuel Head Married M 24 1857 Polisher Art Wolverhampton Staffordshire
YATES, Mary Ann Wife Married F 24 1857 Willenhall Staffordshire
YATES, Mary Jane Daughter Single F 2 1879 Blind Willenhall Staffordshire
YATES, John James F Son Single M 0 1881 Blind Willenhall Staffordshire

1891 18, Albion Street, Willenhall
YATES, Samuel Head Married M 34 1857 Polisher & Grinder Wolverhampton Staffordshire
YATES, Mary Ann Wife Married F 34 1857 Willenhall Staffordshire
YATES, John James Fellows Son M 10 1881 Scholar Willenhall Staffordshire
YATES, William Thomas Son M 8 1883 Scholar Willenhall Staffordshire
YATES, Samuel Son M 5 1886 Scholar Willenhall Staffordshire
YATES, Elizabeth Emma Daughter F 3 1888 Willenhall Staffordshire

1901 Albion Road, Willenhall
YATES, Samuel Head Married M 44 1857 File Grinder Wolverhampton Staffordshire
YATES, Mary A Wife Married F 44 1857 Willenhall Staffordshire
YATES, John J F Son Single M 20 1881 File Grinder Willenhall Staffordshire
YATES, William T Son Single M 18 1883 File Grinder Willenhall Staffordshire
YATES, Samuel Son Single M 15 1886 File Cutter Willenhall Staffordshire
YATES, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 13 1888 Willenhall Staffordshire
YATES, Joseph Son Single M 8 1893 Birmingham Warwickshire
YATES, James Son M 5 1896 Willenhall Staffordshire

so we are after another marriage
not this one
1878 YATES Samuel SEVERN Mary Wednesbury, St Bartholomew Sandwell Register

Samuel Yates and could it be Woodward?
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Re: Help

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:21 pm

this looks poss

Marriages Jun 1878
STACKHOUSE Elizabeth Walsall 6b 819
WILKINSON Arthur Wellesley Walsall 6b 819
WOODWARD Mary Ann Walsall 6b 819
Yates Samuel Walsall 6b 819

contact the archives at walsall ask if they have a marriagto Mary ann woodward and Samuel Yates

i think I am going to add that to bcc

area is good Willenhall walsall area
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Re: Help

Postby mjay » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:28 pm

Thanx Jan

Will Walsall tell me over the phone, didn't think they could do look ups for you, thought they would only issue Certs.

Thanx again appreciate the help

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Re: Help

Postby mjay » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:31 pm

Wow that was quick Jan
You've added it to BCC already lol

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Re: Help

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:32 pm

mjay wrote:Thanx Jan

Will Walsall tell me over the phone, didn't think they could do look ups for you, thought they would only issue Certs.

Thanx again appreciate the help

Mandy :roll:


Send them an email all you want to know really is if there is a marriage for that couple

but to be honest if you look on the census and tie in the other 2 as a couple I think you could say that is your couple.

The regis office wont do look ups but I think they would confirm or deny so you dont waste your money.
depends if you want that certif or not

have you looked on family search if you can get the church you can go to walsall archives and look it up for free
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