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William Smart b 1852 ...where is he in 1871.

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:48 pm

This lot are living in Cradley heath but not born here ...but I think the William Smart is my William Rose b 1852.

I have never been able to find the birth for William Rose b 1852.
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =210491895

In 1861 Tibbetts Garden
William Smart head mar 43 Furnace man b Depping Lincolnshire
Selena Smart wife 31 born Depping Lincolnshire
William Smart son 8 b Depping Lincolnshire....
Joseph Smart son 1 born NOrthamptonshire

1871 Tibbetts Garden
William Smart head married 53 labourer Lincolnshire
Selina Smart wife married 43 Lincolnshire

Name now is Roberts.
1881 3 Tibbetts Garden
William Roberts 65 head married Scavenger b Lincolnshire ma?? Depp?
Selina Roberts wife 55 b Lincolnshire Longstaff
John Roberts Grandson age 8 b Lancashire???? can't read it.

Next door is a Spencer Dodson.
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =464516463

poss death.
SMART, JOSEPH 1
GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 86


SMART, WILLIAM ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in BOURN Volume 07A Page 290


and cant see a marriage .

ran with this previously.
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=4603&hilit=selina+roberts

Baptism seemed to be for William Roberts single mother Selina

but the birth certif was for William Smart mother Mary Roberts.

Just thought I would see if anyone can find anything more.
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Re: William Smart b 1852 ...where is he in 1861.

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:50 pm

I think someone on here had some DNA done which proved that mother was Mary Ann Dodson
But I don't understand the DNA stuff.
And can't remember the username connects to Arthurs Roses brother Ernest I think .

So if they are looking in please post.
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Re: William Smart b 1852 ...where is he in 1861.

Postby Jimmy » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:36 pm

Have you got this ?

FreeReg.

Lincolnshire, Langtoft, St Michael and All Angels.
Baptism date 22 May 1853.
William ROBERTS.
Mother Selina ROBERTS.
Person abode Lanftoft.
Notes Single woman.
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Re: William Smart b 1852 ...where is he in 1861.

Postby Jimmy » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:58 pm

??????

ROBERTS, JOSEPH blank.
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 111.
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Re: William Smart b 1852 ...where is he in 1861.

Postby Jimmy » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:27 pm

1851. Langtoft, Lincolnshire.
Thomas Roberts 57. Widow. Farm Labourer. Uffington, Lincolnshire.
Selina Roberts 19. Dau.
Jane Roberts 14. Dau.
William Roberts 10. Son.
George Roberts 8. Son.

Others born Langtoft, Lincolnshire.

1841. Langtoft, Lincolnshire.
Thomas Roberts 45. Ag lab.
Ellen Roberts 40.
Ann Roberts 15.
Louise Roberts 12.
Shellance Roberts 10.
Charlotte Roberts 8.
Jane Roberts 5.
William Roberts 1.
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Re: William Smart b 1852 ...where is he in 1861.

Postby Jimmy » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:32 pm

ROBERTS, WILLIAM ARCHER.
GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in BOURN UNION Volume 14 Page 292.

Deeping St James, St James.
Thomas ROBERTS. Langtoft. Bachelor.
Eleanor ARCHER. Deeping St James St James. Spinster.
Witness 1 James ARCH.
Witness 2 John KIMBERLEY.
Notes Married by Banns. Officiating clergyman was Rev J MOSSOP Curate.
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Re: William Smart b 1852 ...where is he in 1861.

Postby Jimmy » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:45 pm

Northern Lass wrote:
poss death.
SMART, JOSEPH 1
GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 86


Dudley St Andrew (Netherton).
Burial date 18 Jun 1862.
Joseph SMART. age 1y 9m.
Burial person abode Darby Hand.
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Re: William Smart b 1852 ...where is he in 1861.

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:42 am

Thanks Jimmy
That Baptism is def. the one for Selina and William who I think are down as Smart on the 1861.

But then what happens to William?

Joseph must die and that is prob his burial you found.
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