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OK, thanks. Will try that.

I don't have Eleanor's death cert just her probate. Date of death 27.10.1965. Will order DC. The nearest birth regs I could find were Helena Francis Jones, St Olaves but it's Jan 1877, mmn Brooker and Ellen Jones, St Olaves J quarter 1877 mmn Smitheyman. I couldn't find a baptism for Eleanor Jones f...

No, it just shows William Jones decd, engineer. The only reason I was able to connect him with the other marriages was by the address, 167 Bermondsey Street. This appears on his son Albert's first marriage certificate, Albert's army pension records for his father and Henry's death cert registered by...

Henry did marry a third time to Mary Rebecca or Rebecca Mary. Her name changes on all the records but she was born Mary Rebecca Gratwick. Henry was her second husband. William Thomas is Henry's brother. I only discovered Henry's mother and siblings a few hours ago and it may be that Ellen is a siste...

Yes, that's right. I have certificates now for all children except Eleanor. It seems an Ellen Sullivan in the same area also married a Jones so needed to make sure none of them were hers. So we have: 1874 Mary Elizabeth 1875. Henry James 1881. Henry Thomas 1883. Frederick James 1885. Alice Margaret ...

The parents for Henry James born 1875 were Henry Jones, carman, and Mary Jones maiden name Sullivan

Sorry. I wasn't clear. Our Henry Jones, carman, is the father of Henry Thomas born 1881 and the mother, Mary Jones maiden name Lennard. The address on the birth cert is the same as Henry Jones and Mary Sullivan on the 1881 census, 20 Perseverance Street. Surely it has to be an error.

Update: I found the birth entry on Ancestry and it is Henry. Also a death reg for the same year for Henry James on GRO at St Olave.

Also, I've looked a bit closer at Harry's Certificate and I think it may say Henry and not Harry. The writing is not very clear.

I've received the downloaded certificates. Good news and bad news! Henry Thomas Jones, St Olaves, Southwark 18.3.1881. Father - Henry Jones, Carman. Mother - Mary Jones formerly Lennard!! Address - 20 Perseverance Street which is the address on the census. Mother registered the birth. I also have Ha...

Thanks. Will try ringing LRO and order the certificates I need to. I'll come back when I have the results.

Ellen Jones was 1891. I thought she might be another child of Mary and died. I'd already ordered it and should come in a few days. I will order all the others too. Bermondsey comes under Southwark The only children on the 1901 are Alice, Lily, Violet and Alfred. One more question. I've noticed from ...

Yes, not the easiest one to start as a beginner! This wasnt the only puzzle in this family tree. My grandfather, Albert Alfred Jones (Bertie) married Nellie Gagg. My mother was from his first marriage. Nellie is the daughter of Christopher Gagg (Eleanor's husband) from his first marriage so Eleanor ...

Many thanks for your replies Mary and Henry's Marriage Cert shows date 10 Aug 1873 Henry Jones, 21, bachelor, carman, father William Jones decd, engineer Mary Sullivan, 19, spinster, father Michael Sullivan decd, greengrocer I have a transcript of 1939 Register and just shows question marks for DOB....

Hi, I'm new to this and am stuck! I would be extremely grateful for some help as I seem to be going round in circles! I'm looking for info for 2 of the children of Henry Jones (abt 1852) and his wife Mary nee Sullivan from Bermondsey. The 1881 census shows the family at 20 Perseverance Street - Mary...