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Thanks Aunt Em, that's excellent. However, I am also interested in the fact you have found a premises in Old Hill spelt the same. That's a first for me and removes the' comfort blanket' associated with the spelling of the name.

OldBill

So did I.....whoops

What a fantastic chronology Linell! Thank you. I am encouraged by your findings. I was aware of the Moles being associated with the premises but I did not go back to mid 1800s. I now believe, taking into account the 1871 census revelation connecting the Horse Shoe to Bedcote Street; that Philip's pu...

Hi linell, Yes I saw your message thanks and I see now, that it must have been a sizeable manor in its day. I agree with you that we are in the right area and if I were a betting man, I would say the Horse Shoe mentioned in the 1871 census is the one referred to in 1908 kellys. The only way I can th...

Yes. The 1871 Census lists the Horse Shoe Inn in Bedcote Street. Then i believe it disappears. Perhaps the road is renamed but in 1908 the name of the pub comes up again in Kellys listed under Colley Gate with Philip 'running it.' I also see the name of the premises is shown as two words in both the...

I think Jimmy has reinforced my own thoughts regarding The Colley Gate Inn. Ie. the Colley Gate Inn is not the Horse Shoe. Frederick looks to be Philip's nephew and I am conscious Philip had an uncle Ezra born abt 1842.

Thanks Aunt Em for putting me right regarding 'North East Side'. Fantastic!

In 1881 Census, Philip is living at 45 Windmill Hill H & S. Does anyone know what the H & S stands for? If anyone has access to the manuscript copy of the Census, I would be interested on your thoughts after your perusal.

Thanks yet again.

Thank you all so much for your efforts.

The Bedcote Street reference is encouraging but putting my synacal head again, I cannot rule out linell's thoughts. Would Bedcote Street go under the Colley Gate district? I believe the street has gone but does anyone know if it has been renamed?

Thanks Peter and Linell. It is the Jonathon CRAMPTON (1720) line that I am interested in. The whole line is recorded on BCC but I haven't as yet checked archives. Before doing this or contacting the premises, I would like to exhaust all efforts to trace the location. I am so grateful for all the hel...

Thanks to everyone that has posted information. It really is appreciated! I have traced the family line through the usual sources and your enquiries corroborate all your my findings. I note a couple of issues which I will research further. Namely, the matter of Ezra's Windmill Hill connection. I had...

Hello....at this time I am researching a public house recorded in the 1908 Kelly's Directory as the Horse Shoe, Colley Gate . The licensee at this time was Philip Henry CRAMPTON. I have found no other reference to this premises and cannot positively establish where it was within the area. However, I...