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Have some further information from a couple of certificates. Peter Welsh born 7th Jan 1887 address was Hardman Street Linthorpe Middlesbrough. Father was Patrick Welsh General Labourer, Mother Catherine Welsh formerly Espie. I am now sure that Catherine Espie/Welsh/Robinson is the same lady. She had...

Have some further information from a couple of certificates. Peter Welsh born 7th Jan 1887 address was Hardman Street Linthorpe Middlesbrough. Father was Patrick Welsh General Labourer, Mother Catherine Welsh formerly Espie. I am now sure that Catherine Espie/Welsh/Robinson is the same lady. She had...

Thankyou Maths Girl, should have added this which you found in 1881 ESPIE, Samuel Lodger Head Widower M 35 1846 Labourer At Warfe Scotland ESPIE, Catherine Lodgers Daughter Single F 16 1865 Stockton Durham ESPIE, William Lodgers Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar Middlesbrough Yorkshire Father Samuel, I d...

Thankyou Maths Girl, could the father Patrick be Peter here in 1881?

1881 18, Monsell St, Linthorpe
WELCH, Peter Head Widower M 60 1821 Bricklayers Labr Deaf Ireland
WELCH, Patrick Son Single M 19 1862 Genl Labr London Middlesex

Also looking in 1871 for a Catherine or Kate Espie born Stockton Co Durham about 1868 thankyou from aviator.

Would be most grateful if some kind soul could find Patrick Welch or Welsh born about 1862 London in 1871 thankyou aviator.

That's all wonderful information you have found, thankyou Peter, Cid and Maths Girl. Peter I have ordered John Robinson's Marriage Certificate, I have the tree from him downwards, it's his parents that are the problem. I do now think that Catherine Espie Married Patrick Welsh, and that John, Peter, ...

Oh thanks Maths Girl looks like Kate maybe had one child before she married then. I am totally confused though, will have to try and send for some certificates thankyou from aviator.

It looks like Catherine/Kate Married but cannot find it, Patrick Walsh/Welch about 1884. She had John, 1884, James 1886 and Peter 1887, Mary 1889. Then there is a gap, by 1901 Catherine/Kate is with William Robinson and has Robinson children. James and Peter Walsh/Robinson are living with there fath...

Thankyou Maths Girl seems that the Welch connection is a red herring then. So grateful you found William and Kate in 1901. I don't think the Marriage found by Mark is the right one as there dates of birth are wrong. I will see if there is another marriage, regards from aviator.

Would be really grateful of any help with my Brick Wall please. Am looking for John Robinson born 1884 Middlesbrough. A relative thinks he was born as John Welsh and gave me these details. 1891 Census 14, Nixon Street, Linthorpe, Middlesbrough:- WELSH, Patrick Head Married M 29 1862 Puddler Clapham ...