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i recently ordered the marriage certificate of a john brazier and hilda pinner in 1935 in rotherham, and on there the father of the groom is a thomas brazier but when i type the name into one of the census pages i have no idea which one he is, theres no thomas born in rotherham like the rest of the family and no one knows where he was born though it was around 1895.

if anyone knows or id love to talk to any relatives or know im stuck on this side of my family this is the last bit.
kerry

Put the details of the cert on ie names occpations witnesses

This looks like the family Sparkstopper found you in 1901...

1901. 18 Victoria Street, Rotherham
Martha Colledge, head, W, 57
Alfred, son, 19, Pony driver
Mary J Brazier, daur, M, 26,
John J Brazier, son in law, M, 27, Coal Miner
Lawrence B Colledge, G son, 6,
Martha A Brazier, G daur, 5,
Henrietta Brazier, G daur, 3,
Rose Brazier, G daur, 11 months
All born Rotherham

1911 Census: Court 3, House 1 Greasbro, Rotherham.
George Brookes hd. 35 Brass Caster b.Rotherham.
Mary Jane Brookes wife 36 marr: 4 yrs. b.Rotherham.
Lawrence BRAZIER son 16 Colliery Pony Dvr: b.Rotherham.
Hettie BRAZIER dau.13 b.Rotherham.
Lily BRAZIER dau.8 b.Rotherham.
JOHN JAMES BRAZIER son 5 b.Rotherham.

Marriage: April/June 1935 Rotherham.
John BRAZIER/Hilda L.PINNER
Vol. 9C. page:1780

As Peter said let us know what the marriage cert says and we can look more.
Jo

that sounds good so far thankyou........

Theres no Thomas in them census though.
Jo

Missed this.

Re: brazier

by keslouha2012 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:26 am

i bought the marriage certificate and it says the father of john brazier is a thomas braziera furnace fires man. cant find him anywhere or if looking for the right one.

keslouha2012 wrote:i recently ordered the marriage certificate of a john brazier and hilda pinner in 1935 in rotherham, and on there the father of the groom is a thomas brazier but when i type the name into one of the census pages i have no idea which one he is, theres no thomas born in rotherham like the rest of the family and no one knows where he was born though it was around 1895.

if anyone knows or id love to talk to any relatives or know im stuck on this side of my family this is the last bit.
kerry

how old was john on marriage cert ?

poss ?

51 Selborne St, Rotherham

Thomas Brazier 35 coal miner
Ada Brazier 28 ( 5 years married 3 born 2 living)
George France 6 son
Thomas Brazier 2
Florence Wright 12 niece
all born Rotherham


Marriages Jun 1906

Brazier Thomas Rotherham 9c 1233
France Ada Rotherham 9c 1233



Births Sep 1911
Brazier Joseph France Rotherham 9c 1465


Births Sep 1914
BRAZIER John France Rotherham 9c 1570


Births Dec 1915
Brazier Lily France Rotherham 9c 1324


Births Sep 1919
Brazier Ada France Rotherham 9c 1303

what was his age on cert and who were witnesses kerry

there are two john brazier marriage in rotherham first one discounted as john j would have only been 13 if born c 1914 so above john c 1914 is proberly the one who married hilda pinner


Marriages Jun 1927
BRAZIER John J Smithurst Rotherham 9c 1597


Marriages Jun 1935
Brazier John Pinner Rotherham 9c 1780

grangers14 wrote:This looks like the family Sparkstopper found you in 1901...

1901. 18 Victoria Street, Rotherham
Martha Colledge, head, W, 57
Alfred, son, 19, Pony driver
Mary J Brazier, daur, M, 26,
John J Brazier, son in law, M, 27, Coal Miner
Lawrence B Colledge, G son, 6,
Martha A Brazier, G daur, 5,
Henrietta Brazier, G daur, 3,
Rose Brazier, G daur, 11 months
All born Rotherham

1911 Census: Court 3, House 1 Greasbro, Rotherham.
George Brookes hd. 35 Brass Caster b.Rotherham.
Mary Jane Brookes wife 36 marr: 4 yrs. b.Rotherham.
Lawrence BRAZIER son 16 Colliery Pony Dvr: b.Rotherham.
Hettie BRAZIER dau.13 b.Rotherham.
Lily BRAZIER dau.8 b.Rotherham.
JOHN JAMES BRAZIER son 5 b.Rotherham.

Marriage: April/June 1935 Rotherham.
John BRAZIER/Hilda L.PINNER
Vol. 9C. page:1780

As Peter said let us know what the marriage cert says and we can look more.
Jo

Marriages Jun 1927
BRAZIER John J Smithurst Rotherham 9c 1597

the writing is bad on the certificate but it says john brazier was 21 in 1935 when he got married so i guess he was born 1914 in kimberworth park. it says the grooms father is thomas brazier and the witnesses are florence kathleen pinner and richard palmer and a john a. bell. they lived at 54 kimerworth park road, rotherham.

kerry

keslouha2012 wrote:the writing is bad on the certificate but it says john brazier was 21 in 1935 when he got married so i guess he was born 1914 in kimberworth park. it says the grooms father is thomas brazier and the witnesses are florence kathleen pinner and richard palmer and a john a. bell. they lived at 54 kimerworth park road, rotherham.

kerry

peterd wrote:poss ?

51 Selborne St, Rotherham

Thomas Brazier 35 coal miner
Ada Brazier 28 ( 5 years married 3 born 2 living)
George France 6 son
Thomas Brazier 2
Florence Wright 12 niece
all born Rotherham


Marriages Jun 1906

Brazier Thomas Rotherham 9c 1233
France Ada Rotherham 9c 1233



Births Sep 1911
Brazier Joseph France Rotherham 9c 1465


Births Sep 1914
BRAZIER John France Rotherham 9c 1570


Births Dec 1915
Brazier Lily France Rotherham 9c 1324


Births Sep 1919
Brazier Ada France Rotherham 9c 1303

Births Sep 1914
BRAZIER John France Rotherham 9c 1570


this is poss your john then and his family above

what relationship to you is he ? can any older people confirm thomas wife name or any off john siblings ?

my great grand father is john brazier and i havnt spoke to nay memebers of my family in docaster/ rotherham for 10 years no one here has and my grand mother is very ill and doesnt remember the past anymore. so thats why im a bit stuck, i know john was born 1914 in rotherham theres no one i know of that can help i got his name from my dad and his dads name from the marriage certificate.

Births Sep 1914
BRAZIER John France Rotherham 9c 1570

then you poss need this birth cert

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