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COMPLETED - Samuel Bird & wife Emma - Query

Postby mallosa » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:25 pm

Think my brain has shrunk during my weekend away! Need to sort this out, can you help...

This Marriage has been looked up by Rockyfowler...twice?

Marriage 25 Dec 1855 St Giles Rowley Regis
Samuel BIRD 19 B Blackheath Father James Bird Nailer
Emma SMITH 19 S Blackheath Father Henry Smith Rivet Maker
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Joseph Bridgewater X / Hannah Whitehouse X

This is my effort on BCC - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=343640

..but this has already been added - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=343649

Can't get my head around it :?
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Re: Samuel Bird & wife Emma - Query

Postby Jimmy » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:34 pm

Looks like 2 different Samuel Birds married an Emma.
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Re: Samuel Bird & wife Emma - Query

Postby grangers14 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:38 pm

Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
Bird Samuel Newport M 11a 287
Graves Isaac Newport M 11a 287
Miller Annie Newport M 11a 287
Perrins Emma Newport M 11a 287

I wonder if this is the marriage? On the 1861 census the household previous has
Marria Perrins, head, ? 50, Butchers ?, Litchield
Moses Perrins, son, 16, Forge Labourer, Kingswinford

Samuel at one census was living in a butchers shop and became a butcher...
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Re: Samuel Bird & wife Emma - Query

Postby grangers14 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:44 pm

1851. Quarry Bank, Kingswinford.
George Perrins, head, 32, Butcher, Worcestershire
Maria, wife, 40, Litchfield
Emma, daur, 9, Birmingham
George, son, 8,?
Moses, son, 6?
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Re: Samuel Bird & wife Emma - Query

Postby grangers14 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:57 pm

The 1871 census has, under servant, looks as in same household...

/ Maria Perrins, head, W, 60, Litchfield
Moses, son, 26, Iron worker puddler, Kingswinford

So does look it is that marriage to me...
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Re: Samuel Bird & wife Emma - Query

Postby Jimmy » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:00 pm

grangers14 wrote:Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
Bird Samuel Newport M 11a 287
Graves Isaac Newport M 11a 287
Miller Annie Newport M 11a 287
Perrins Emma Newport M 11a 287.



Samuel Bird.
Wales, Monmouthshire, Parish Registers.
Name: Samuel Bird.
Event Type: Marriage.
Event Date: 25 Dec 1860.
Event Place: Newport, St Woolos, Monmouthshire, Wales.
Spouse's Name: Emma Penices.
GS Film Number: 2411682 , Digital Folder Number: 004393992.
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Re: Samuel Bird & wife Emma - Query

Postby rockyfowler » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:04 pm

25 Dec 1860 The Parish Church of St Woolos
Samuel BIRD F B Shingler St Woolos Father Samuel Bird Butcher
Emma PENICES F S St Woolos Father George Penices Butcher
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Alfred Penices / William Davies
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Re: Samuel Bird & wife Emma - Query

Postby grangers14 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:23 pm

Thats clinches it then :grin:
So Perrins or Penices, I would go with Perrins..
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Re: Samuel Bird & wife Emma - Query

Postby mallosa » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:32 am

Thanks a lot Jo, adding those now :wink:
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Re: Samuel Bird & wife Emma - Query

Postby mallosa » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:07 am

added to BCC - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=343804

Completed with thanks to all :grin:
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