James Speake abt 1849

[kdw]

Rocky has kindly looked this marriage up

2 Sept 1888 St Giles Rowley Regis
James Speake 39 bach Bricklayer Brads Village Father James Speake Bricklayer
Hannah Rowley 29 spin Brads Village Father John Rowley Brick Carrier
Wit; James Rowley X Harriet Rowley

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=54559068

Can we find James parents please ?

[Jimmy]

Is is age right on the marriage, this would fit if he was about 29 when he married.
1881.
James SPEAKE Head M Male 41 N K, Shropshire, England Bricklayer
Hannah SPEAKE Wife M Female 40 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England
James SPEAKE Son U Male 20 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Joseph SPEAKE Son U Male 19 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Fanny SPEAKE Daur U Female 13 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Sarah A. MILLS Step Daur U Female 12 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
William SPEAKE Son U Male 10 Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England Scholar
Lizzie MILLS Step Daur U Female 10 Halesowen, Worcester, England
George MILLS Step Son Male 7 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Walter SPEAKE Son Male 1 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Alfred B. SPEAKE Son Male 1 m Halesowen, Worcester, England
Soloman MORGAN Lodger U Female 32 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Farm Laborer

Spies Lane
The Hill, Worcester.

[Jimmy]

Step children named Mills.

Marriages Mar 1877.
Devis Sarah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Hollins Elijah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
MILLS Hannah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
SPEAKE James. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.

[kdw]

Have just found this
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 1890 May 26 Alaska
Sarah Rowley 53 Matron England
James Speake 30 Bricklayer England
Harriet Speake 30 wife England
Amphlias Rowley 16 Spinster England
Harriet Rowley 18 Spinster England
Albut Rowley 11 England
Albut Rowley 8 Infant England

John Rowley 1857 calls his children Harriet and Amplias

[Jimmy]

This looks like the same lot.

1881.
John ROWLEY. Head M Male 47 Oldbury, Worcester, England Brickyard Lab.
Sarah ROWLEY. Wife M Female 47 Quinton, Worcester, England
James ROWLEY. Son U Male 26 Oldbury, Worcester, England Brickyard Lab.
John ROWLEY. Son U Male 23 Halesowen, Worcester, England Brickyard Lab.
Hannah ROWLEY. Daur U Female 20 Halesowen, Worcester, England Dressmaker.
Charles ROWLEY. Son Male 11 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar.
Harriet ROWLEY. Daur Female 8 Oldbury, Worcester, England Scholar.
Amplice ROWLEY. Daur Female 6 Oldbury, Worcester, England Scholar.
Albert ROWLEY. Son Male 3 Rowley, Stafford.

Salop St 6 Tenhouse Row.
Oldbury, Worcester.

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Birth 1860.
SPAKE James, Halesowen, Dudley Register Office, HAL/018/399.

West Midlands Birth 1865.
SPAKE Fanny, Halesowen, Dudley Register Office, HAL/024/181.

[kdw]

I really dont understand this
1891 Lower Quinton
Hannah Speke Head Wid 49 Born Bromsgrove
Sarah Ann Mills Daur. 22 Born Quinton
Lizzie Mills Daur. 20 Laundress Born Halesowen
Walter Speke Son 11 Scholar Born Quinton
Alfred Arthur Speke Son 10 Scholar Born Quinton
Christopher Speke Son 7 Scholar Born Quinton

1901 Victoria Road Aston Manor
John Mascott Head 55 Cant reasd occ Born Nottngham
Emma Mascott Wife 54 Born LOndon
Florence Mascott Daur. 14 Cycle Lamp Trade Born Aston
Maud Mascott Daur. 10 Born Aston
Fanny Mascott Mother 77 Born Nottingham
Gertrude Stowe Niece 21 Cycle Lamp Trade Born Birmingham
Lizzie Mills Daur. 30 House Keeper Born Halesowen
George Mills Son 26 Barman Born Halesowen
Walter Speake Son 21 Barman Born Quinton
Christopher Speake Son 17 Postman Born Quinton

Looks like 2 seperate houses Macotts at 71 Milss and Speake at 73

Possible Death for James
Deaths Mar 1884
SPEAKE James 41 Barrow in Furness 8e 549

[kdw]

James Speake
Father: Humphry Speake
Spouse: Hannah Lightfoot
Marriage: 13 DEC 1863 St Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester, England

[kdw]

Ancestry trees has this
Name: Humphrey SPEAKE
Sex: M
Birth: 1803 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
Christening: 21 FEB 1803 Church Stretton, Shropshire, England

Father: George SPEAKE b: 20 FEB 1768 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England c: 20 MAR 1768 in St. Chad, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Mother: Jane DODD

Marriage 1 Martha MATTHEWS b: 1802 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England c: 11 JUL 1802 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
Married: 15 MAY 1826 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England

Children
Eliza SPEAKE b: ABT 1826 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England c: 16 NOV 1826 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
George SPEAKE b: ABT 1830 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
Martha SPEAKE b: 1833 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England c: 7 MAR 1833 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
Hannah SPEAKE b: ABT 1834 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
Humphrey SPEAKE b: ABT 1837 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
Thomas SPEAKE b: ABT 1837 in Colliers Lye, Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
James SPEAKE b: ABT 1842 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England c: 16 JAN 1842 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
William SPEAKE b: ABT 1847 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England c: 2 JAN 1848 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
Daniel SPEAKE b: 1849 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England c: 30 DEC 1849 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England

[Jimmy]

Is is age right on the marriage, this would fit if he was about 29 when he married.
1881.
James SPEAKE Head M Male 41 N K, Shropshire, England Bricklayer
Hannah SPEAKE Wife M Female 40 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England
James SPEAKE Son U Male 20 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Joseph SPEAKE Son U Male 19 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Fanny SPEAKE Daur U Female 13 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Sarah A. MILLS Step Daur U Female 12 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
William SPEAKE Son U Male 10 Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England Scholar
Lizzie MILLS Step Daur U Female 10 Halesowen, Worcester, England
George MILLS Step Son Male 7 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Walter SPEAKE Son Male 1 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Alfred B. SPEAKE Son Male 1 m Halesowen, Worcester, England
Soloman MORGAN Lodger U Female 32 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Farm Laborer

Spies Lane
The Hill, Worcester.

It looks like Hannah wasn' the mother of all the children.

Can anyone see them in 1861 or 1871 census.

[kdw]

Possible
1871 Birmingham
James Speaker Head 26 Bricklayer Born Senterdine ? Hereford
Sarah Speaker Wife 19 Born Birmingham
James Speaker Son 10 months Born Birmingham
Charles Speaker Brother 20 Born Senterdine ? Hereford

Think this is the right family but cant find James in 1871
1861 Church Stretton Shropshire
Humphrey Speake Head 61 Mason
Martha Speake Wife 60
Humphrey Speake Son 23 Mason
James Speake Son 19 Mason
James Srice Lodger 16 Labourer
Daniel Speake Son 11
All Born All Stretton Salop
Next Door Thos Speake Head Mar. 21 Carpenter Born All Stretton
Elizabeth Speake Wife 30 Born Newtown Herefod
James Speake 1 Mth Born Newtown

Also this
Leintwardine Green Hereford
James Speake Head 37 Sawyer P. M. Local Preacher Born Leintwardine
Mary Speake wife 38 Born Clun
James Speake Son 16 Ag Lab Born Leintwardine
Charles Speake Son 10 Scholar Born Leintwardine
Henry Speake Son 7 Scholar Born Leintwardine
Mary Ann Speake Daur. 8 Mo Born Leintwardine

[Jimmy]

JAMES SPEAKE.
SARAH MACDONALD.
Marriage, 15 AUG 1869. Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick.

[kdw]

Have looked this marriage up

13 Dec 1863 St Edmunds Dudley
James Speake Full Bachelor Bricklayer Dudley Humphry Speake Bricklayer
Hannah Lightfoot Full Spinster Dudley Father Deceased
Wit: Abel Bennett Sarah Bennett
Banns

NOT added to BCC
Trying to work out dates of birth for the James'

[grangers14]

Dont know if this is putting a spanner in the works but theres this?? May not be anything but...
Transcibed as Sprake
1891 126 Herbert (?) Road, Deritend, Aston
James Speake, head, 52, Bricklayer, Church Stretton
Hannah, wife, 53, Quarry Bank
James G(?) son, 15, Engine Cleaner(?) Locomotive, Quarry bank
Mary ? Davies, lodger, W, 81, Cheshire Ben?
Mary Gro?, lodger, W, 54, Lancashire, Manchester

[Jimmy]

Dont know if this is putting a spanner in the works but theres this?? May not be anything but...
Transcibed as Sprake
1891 126 Herbert (?) Road, Deritend, Aston
James Speake, head, 52, Bricklayer, Church Stretton
Hannah, wife, 53, Quarry Bank
James G(?) son, 15, Engine Cleaner(?) Locomotive, Quarry bank
Mary ? Davies, lodger, W, 81, Cheshire Ben?
Mary Gro?, lodger, W, 54, Lancashire, Manchester

1881.
James SPEAKE. Head M Male 40 Church Stretton, Shropshire, Bricklayer.
Hannah SPEAKE. Wife M Female 42 Quarry Bank, Stafford.
Maria J. DAVIES. Mother W Female 71 Barley Down, Cheshire.
James George SPEAKE. Son Male 5 Quarry Bank, Stafford, Scholar.

Frederick Street.
Wednesfield, Stafford.