Isaac Thompson, Sedgley. BC Wench Adding...

[Jimmy]

I have been reading a book called "A Grim Almanac of The Black Country" on Kindle.

1n 1862 an Isaac Thompson of sedgey thrust a sharp pointed spike into the head of his 8 year old daughter causing a fatal wound, at the time he was awaiting trial for roasting another of his children alive.
Onle 14 months earlier he was charged with unlawfully wounding a third child. It mentions a Hannah a Martha and a Rachel.

more to follow,

[Jimmy]

1851. Straits, Sedgley.
Isaac Thompson 22. Labourer.
Sarah Thompson 21.
Rachel Thompson 1.

All born Sedgley.

1861. ???? Green, Sedgley.
Isaac Thomson 32. Labourer.
Sarah Thomson 31.
Rachel Thomson 11.
Hannah Thomson 7.
Sarah Thomson 5.
Alice J Thomson 2.

All born Sedgley.

[Jimmy]

Staffordshire.
Place Sedgley.
Church name All Saints.
Register type Parish Register.
Register entry number 460.
Marriage date 16 Apr 1849.
Groom forename Isaac
Groom surname THOMPSON.
Groom age full age.
Groom condition bachelor.
Groom abode Straits.
Groom occupation Maltster.
Bride forename Sarah
Bride surname SOUTHALL.
Bride age minor.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride abode Straits.
Groom father forename Richard
Groom father surname THOMPSON.
Groom father occupation Nailer.
Bride father forename Cornelius
Bride father surname SOUTHALL.
Bride father occupation Sawyer.
Witness William SOUTHALL.
Witness Eliza SOUTHALL.
Register note Groom, Bride & Witnesses sign X.

[Jimmy]

1851. Straits, Sedgley.
Richard Thomson 42. Labourer.
Rachel Thomson 45.
John Thomson 18.
M Ann Thomson 15.
Wesley Thomson 12.
Rachel Thomson 11.
Sarah Thomson 8.
Benjamin Thomson 5.


1841. Collwallend, Sedgley.
Richard Thompson 29. Nailer.
Rachel Thompson 32.
Isaac Thompson 13.
Joseph Thompson 11.
John Thompson 8.
Mary Thompson 5.
Wesley Thompson 2.
Rachel Thompson 1. abt 1840

[Jimmy]

Staffordshire.
Place Sedgley.
Church name All Saints.
Register type Unspecified.
Register entry number 1297.
Burial date 24 Oct 1862.
Person age 8m.
Burial person forename Martha
Burial person surname THOMPSON.
Burial person abode Straits.

Staffordshire.
Place Sedgley.
Church name All Saints.
Register type Unspecified.
Register entry number 1374.
Burial date 11 Jan 1863.
Person age 8y6m.
Burial person forename Hannah
Burial person surname THOMPSON.
Burial person abode Straits.

[Jimmy]

Southall on image.


1841. Cotwallend, Sedgley.
Corns Southwell 50. Labourer.
Jane Southwell 41.
Cornelius Southwell 25.
Sophia Southwell 12.
Sarah Southwell 11.
Jane Southwell 7.
Hannah Southwell 5.
Benjamin Southwell 3.
John Southall 1.

1851. Straits, Sedgley.
Cornelius Southall 66. Sawyer.
Jane Southall 49.
Cornelius Southall 33.
Hannah Southall 15.
Benjamin Southall 13.
John Southall 10.
Rachul Southall 6.

All born Sedgley.

Name Cornelius Southall.
Spouse's Name Jane Marson.
Event Date 01 Jan 1828.
Event Place Kingswinford,Stafford,England.

England Marriages, 1538–1973.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number M05373-1.
System Origin England-ODM.
GS Film number 435778, 435779.

[Northern Lass]

I have been reading a book called "A Grim Almanac of The Black Country" on Kindle.

1n 1862 an Isaac Thompson of sedgey thrust a sharp pointed spike into the head of his 8 year old daughter causing a fatal wound, at the time he was awaiting trial for roasting another of his children alive.
Onle 14 months earlier he was charged with unlawfully wounding a third child. It mentions a Hannah a Martha and a Rachel.

more to follow,

That is awful!!

Why on earth wasn't he banged up straight away!
Do you have the court info....why would he be allowed to be at home awaiting trial..why not in prison awaiting trial.

[Jimmy]

He blamed his wife foe being a drunkard, he was fined 5 shilling for smacking 13 year old Rachel in the mouth , and 2 weeks hard labour for manslaughter to the one that was badly burned.

[Jimmy]

Staffordshire.
Place Wombourne.
Church name St Benedict Biscop.
Register type Unspecified.
Marriage date 07 Apr 1828.
Groom forename Richard
Groom surname THOMPSON.
Groom condition Bachelor.
Bride forename Rachel
Bride surname HICKMANS.
Bride condition Spinster.
Witness Isaac THOMPSON.
Witness James THOMPSON.
Register note Bride signed with an X.

[Jimmy]

I couldn't see any of these on BCC.

[Northern Lass]

I couldn't see any of these on BCC.

Not sure I want to add that horrible man to Bcc
he is probably best forgotten.

[grangers14]

It is terrible, poor children
To be honest, it is history and that is where it lays... We have no idea what went on.
Our personal feelings on it should not be brought into account. Just my thoughts...
Jo

[Jimmy]

The book is available on Kindle £2. 84.

[BC Wench]

I've been reading the newspaper reports on FMP on the cases in question and you know what, I feel a lot of empathy towards Isaac.

The eldest daughter, Rachel aged 13yrs had to look after her siblings in the absence of her mother, Sarah. It appears that Sarah frequented the house on a "hop and a catch" and that Isaac was trying to keep the family together.

Birmingham Gazette 18 March 1863
....Rachel wept as she gave evidence and said that her father was always kind and good, and that if their mother had been the same they should all have been happy and comfortable. Mr Hill for the defence alluded to the fact that the prisoner was, unfortunately, allied to a wife who neglected her duties and left them entirely to him. He had been kindly and indulgent to his children, and had tried, as far as he could, to supply the mother's place and it was not to be supposed that he could ever have contemplated injuring his child.....

If Isaac was so violent to his children, why didn't their mother take care of them, what was she doing!

If you search on the web "isaac thompson of sedgley" using the inverted commas, there's a book "A Horrid History of Christmas" which gives the details.

This looks like Sarah's father on BCC

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=386168

which I've followed up and will put info on BCC if you agree.

[grangers14]

I have been reading them too. Seems a sad story all round
Seems alcohol related problems as he had been with his wife drinking that day and given her money and beef to cook for the family. "Sally" Sarah was not there on his return causing a violent reaction from him, probably with drink, nor had she been there 3 nights previous...
Not an excuse for him.
I just dont think it is our call not to allow on BCC even though horrific. It was another life, history, that is what we document...
See what NL says but I think it should go on. My opinion.